Do we want to be part of the problem, or part of the solution? A world suffused with AI probably wouldn’t be good for us – or the planet |... Amid all the hysteria about ChatGPT and co, one thing is being missed: how energy-intensive the technology is

Nobody ever cares :slight_smile: I mean, government.

Those those are interesting questions, especially that no one thinks about it. These are things my university has just started discussing for the energy use of our clusters (mostly for processing petabytes of genomics data), but it is a topic of discussion and something the cluster managers are well…

[image] Raf: The answer could end up being that in the broader context of society the energy consumption of scientific models is an irrelevant cost for a significant gain. Yeah, we all like to believe this. We use resources like they are given by God and request more every year. The only ener…

[image] yvikhlya: The only energy discussion I’ve heard was “how are we going to keep this thing cool” Ok yeah that’s kind of depressing. Maybe very few AI use cases will match your models individually. But in aggregate I’m guessing they will easily. And that will be hidden in huge distant c…

Energy use is an interesting discussion. I for one am much more concerned about energy efficiency than CO2 reduction. When is the last time we warmed our car for 5 minutes before getting in and driving off. Something I never do but see others doing this constantly in cold weather. And every time…

[image] Jake: When is the last time we warmed our car for 5 minutes before getting in and driving off. Something I never do but see others doing this constantly in cold weather. I do it. I avoid unnecessary driving anyway, but driving with a fogged windscreen is a risk, and causing a crash i…

As this post doesn’t seem to go anywhere, perhaps it is time to quote Jean Yanne: “Everyone wants to save the planet, but no one wants to take out the trash”

[image] Jake: And money is definitely a driver here. That is it. If some computation is really expensive in terms of energy use, in most case you will be presented the bill, directly or indirectly. If you don’t see the bill, then it is probably more or less peanuts.

[image] rafael.guerra: perhaps it is time to quote Jean Yanne: “Everyone wants to save the planet, but no one wants to take out the trash” I disagree. Just those who claim they want to save the planet and those who take out the trash are mostly not the same people in my experience.

AI models are too costly

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PetrKryslUCSD December 26, 2023, 9:47pm 69

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AI models are too costly

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