It’s arguably a package of fundamental importance and I’d love to see it ship with Julia. Maybe the @btime macro should even be available without any using? :slight_smile: Thoughts?

[image] Liso: Yes you could keep working with Julia 0.6 and using Cxx.jl. But do you really thing it is a sustainable and competitive method how to create software? :scream_cat: I don’t understand why you think I suggested this. I just want to make the following point: Pkg has reasonable d…

[image] Tamas_Papp: This whole issue is pretty orthogonal to whether a package is in the standard library or not. If Cxx.jl would have been part of the standard library, there would not have been a julia version 1.0 where it is broken. How is that not relevant?

[image] thofma: If Cxx.jl would have been part of the standard library, there would not have been a julia version 1.0 where it is broken. Cxx.jl would never have been considered for inclusion in the Julia repo but assuming there had been development time moved from other things to maintainin…

Perhaps someone could clarify what the purpose of stdlib is, and what the criteria for inclusion are? So far, I’m getting the impression that nothing should be in stdlib.

[image] DNF: Perhaps someone could clarify what the purpose of stdlib is , and what the criteria for inclusion are? Ref What is a Julia standard library? · Issue #27197 · JuliaLang/julia · GitHub . The stdlib are currently things that were moved out from Base with the purpose of at some later…

Sure, one has to make decisions. I am not saying that anything is wrong with julia 1.0 or the choices of what to include and what not. I just pointed out that being in std implies that the package is functional in the next release. While there won’t be magically more maintainers, people are forced t…

[image] thofma: While there won’t be magically more maintainers, people are forced to keep it working. For some people this is therefore a good argument for putting stuff in std or at least keeping it there. I don’t understand your logic. If people are committing their free time to do somethi…

Of course you are right with what you say. I totally agree. You cannot force anyone to do anything. But I don’t think that this is relevant here. If I make a PR for julia (the language), which adds an amazing feature or improves the language significantly, but which breaks something in stdlib, it w…

[image] thofma: which breaks something in stdlib, it won’t get merged. I have to fix the package in stdlib. That’s not how Semver works either you have to fix all packages (impossible because they can be proprietary) or just wait next major release. My point is that there is no difference if …

Should BenchmarkTools.jl be a stdlib?

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Does that mean that in principle, there is no need for a stdlib? It’s more of an “intermediate storage” for things moving out of Base?

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