https://github.com/tensorflow/swift/blob/master/docs/WhySwiftForTensorFlow.md This is interesting and is reminiscent of Julia’s approach in flux. What seems divergent is the lack of multiple dispatch (+1 for Julia) and the static memory analysis/guarantees (+1 for swift). Any thoughts? tagging @…

I’m excited to see what the Swift folks come up with here. We’re obviously targeting a similar set of problems, and there are more than enough differences in philosophy and design choices to keep things interesting. Since our blog last December, several “ML as programming”-style frameworks have arr…

It’s interesting also that they had considered Julia also, and had many kind things to say about it. :grinning: Swift (and Rust) are also two languages of interest to me.

[image] MikeInnes: second-wave ones were largely industrialised clones (TensorFlow, PyTorch), this third generation increasingly being built by compiler and languages people, and it looks very, very different to what came before. In what ways do they seem different? Are user-friendliness or e…

[image] MikeInnes: One thing that’s notably missing from the landscape is a truly new language for ML. The Isn’t Julia that new language? Or do you foresee the need for something else?

Yeah exactly. When I saw the presentation about swift for Tensorflow Swift for TensorFlow - TFiwS (TensorFlow Dev Summit 2018) - YouTube , it reminded me of that blog post

I’m also interested in Swift. Both for general programming and for data science/ML. So far the data science/ML part outside of iOS/MacOS (which has coreML/Accelerate etc) has been very weak (apart from some hobby projects) but TF for Swift could change all that. It’s exciting to see a modern statica…

[image] DNF: In what ways do they seem different? Are user-friendliness or expressiveness among them? Absolutely. The main difference right now is providing an intuitive programming model while also being able to take advantage of optimisations and new hardware accelerators easily. There’s be…

Is this something you are working on lately? Could Julia handle this via metaprogramming? (i.e. embed a ML specific DSL using macro).

I’m not sure…seems like it’s a type system matter, per that use of the where clause. @MikeInnes , thank you for the explication. I’m also curious if anything is planned for these ML specific facilities.

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