We use the Julia REPL quite a bit with custom data flows. When interactively toying around with them, we find the pipe operator extremely handy; especially combined with expressive Base.show() output, the sense of progression aids the learning, with minimal cursoring-and-bracketing-around.
I was wondering about the possibility of a new operator for assignment at the end of a pipe chain, and wanted to gather some feedback. (I did not find a Julia discussion, only an R one at r - How do you end a pipe with an assignment operator? - Stack Overflow)
So instead of:
result = load("foobar") |> transmogrify
one could write:
load("foobar") |> transmogrify |>= result
Leaner/shorter variants than
|>= might even be better, but
| are already taken. (Maybe this could even be tackled on a higher, not-just-pipe level, via some “rightward” assignment operator that would not have to adhere to some pipe nomenclature.)
Any thaughts appreciated!
I agree this would be nice (I really with R had this too). fwiw, Chain.jl has something kind of similar in the latest version (which doesn’t wrap in a
julia> using Chain
julia> x = rand(10);
julia> @chain x begin
y = _
I’ve never understood RHS assignment. I use Chain all the time (and simple pipes for simple tasks), but I still always use LHS assignment.
You could easily make a macro that takes an expression like
@rhassign x |> f |> g = y and flips the expression so that it runs like
y = x |> f |> g.
This doesn’t solve the problem, though, since if you knew you wanted to assign a variable, you would have written it at the top.
Same response to @tbeason, sometimes you write an expression and then realize only later you want to assign it to a variable. Its a nice feature wither REPL
I also just figured out how to do it in R
x %>% f() -> y
I don’t think that really makes much of a difference, you can return to the beginning of a long expression with 1 or 2 keystrokes (home key) and add the assignment if you want. It is more about a conceptual difference.
TIL about the home key. Still, I think it would be useful.
first, thanks for the feedback!
I concur with @pdeffebach that macros are not ideal here – when I started piping around, I of course forgot to start the line with the initial macro; I’d need the same procedure (up → home → write something).
(Of course the number of keystrokes is absurdly modest. But maybe it’s also psychological – at least my head does not want to go back to the beginning of the nice pipeline; it is now snugly entrenched at the end of it…)
I’m not sure about this. I only pipe across many lines, and left handed assignment is a lot clearer in that case. There’s no way I would confuse
|>, but I might confuse
|> at a glance and think
result is the last called function. I get the use in the REPL, but we already can 1) click the home key to move to the start of the line, or 2) retrieve the value from global
ans immediately after execution:
julia> 1:9 |> sum
julia> result = ans
Actually it does, the
<- assignement in
R is also available as
->, which is IMHO clever.