Today I came across an announcement of a new package that turned out to be hundreds of words of LLM slop. It was unbearable. Other fora have a hard rule against LLM-generated postings or comments, and they benefit from it. There are automated tools that detect LLM garbage with over 90% accuracy. Th…

[image] mbauman: It is true that I had been turning a blind eye to package announcements and changelogs Maybe it’s interesting to think about why I had been doing this. I was asked on Slack a few weeks ago and I didn’t really have a solid answer… but this comment made me realize a bit more: …

I think the borderline antagonistic back-and-forth on LLM summary capabilities and our opinions of such is missing the point. We can assume LLMs are perfect, and the disconnect between people is still the fundamental problem. To put it politely, I have observed a rise in the LLM era of infodump ANNs…

[image] gwr: I am quite often interested in good content and do not care how it was produced. This gets solved by attribution. Indeed, attribution makes the reply even better: It tells people how they could have figured out the answer themselves. Recall the ancient “let me google that for you…

[image] gwr: If a company can afford lots of specialists (including communication specialists), who can also converse with each other, and these people each have an account on Julia Discourse, why should they be ok to make use of this “communication power” The Julia discourse isn’t a competit…

Inauthentic posting, astroturfing, sock puppetry, and spam isn’t new, but LLMs do enable all of these at a bigger scale. It actually seems quite backwards to me to suggest that inauthentic LLM postings should be used to counteract inauthentic human posting. Both are bad! We are seeing a new categ…

I don’t know, Matt. There is a lot of truth in your posts on this topic. However, I’m getting a feeling that in general your approach of not liking this new technology is wrong. It seems like you focus mostly on micro aspects, losing sight of the broader picture entirely. Julia is part of the infor…

[image] j_u: And you are our public face and voice. A moderator is not a representative of the Discourse community, let alone the language’s applications. They’re just stuck with the burden of enforcing the community standards and guidelines all participants (ought to have) read and agreed to…

To be abundantly clear, what I mean by “inauthentic” is things like spams, scams, and astroturfs. I am not suggesting that all AI posts are inauthentic. I’m not even saying that all sloppy AI posts are inauthentic. Nor am I saying that inauthentic behaviors are the only problem with AI posts. Al…

[image] mbauman: where a number of folks responded in good faith I was one. I also recently had a back and forth on a GitHub issue where the author later came and told me to disregard the previous interactions that were from his AI bot (using his same profile). Those interactions are a big …

[image] Benny: A moderator is not a representative of the Discourse community, let alone the language’s applications. I’d say the role is much more then just that as this is a significant voice in the whole discussion. [image] mbauman: Here we talk with each other. We don’t talk with a c…

I don’t want to read LLM output

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