Not trying to spin up any controversy… but do we have a list about things that are better in Julia than Python and vice versa as of today? To have a productive discussion, I would think such list should contain items that are fairly clear (eg speed) rather than those that are highly subjective (eg m…

[image] DNF: Julia has a comparatively (in a relative sense) large number of active contributors to the language IMO this is an extremely important point, both for the ecosystem and the management of expectations. Julia attracts people who need to implement something and want to do it in a ge…

[image] DNF: To contribute to Julia, you just need to know Julia. Depends. If you want to contribute to e.g. code optimization some C, LLVM IR and internals and some background on femto-lisp would be needed.

Sure, but you don’t need that to contribute in other ways. There’s a lot more you can do knowing just Julia than in many other languages.

Agree. The MATLAB style syntax is more consice and makes more sense mathematically. Although Julia can be a good general purpose language, I still like the bloodline from Fortran to MATLAB to Julia.

That is because Python is at a more mature stage, and more contributions go to packages instead of the language itself.

[image] Yifan_Liu: That is because Python is at a more mature stage, and more contributions go to packages instead of the language itself. I don’t think that is the correct explanation. I believe it’s because the barrier to entry for contributors are lower in Julia than in Python. Python is …

[image] lobingera: Depends. If you want to contribute to e.g. code optimization some C, LLVM IR and internals and some background on femto-lisp would be needed. Yes, if you’re one of the <10 or so people who have ever wanted to work on the very core of Julia, you need to learn this. If you’re…

Honestly, I don’t really think we are going to get all that many people who spend the vast majority of their time in pure Python coming over to Julia any time soon. Most of the Python people I’ve interacted with simply don’t consider tasks that Python isn’t “good enough” for worth doing. As I’ve s…

I agree. You can contribute a lot to the general julia environment with a julia-only background. However, if i open The Julia Programming Language · GitHub and go over the repositories and list contributors i see a way shorter list than ‘tens of thousands of people’. Let’s say there is momentum to…

[image] lobingera: However, if i open The Julia Programming Language · GitHub and go over the repositories and list contributors i see a way shorter list than ‘tens of thousands of people’. There’s at least 2000 who have contributed to a package online https://juliaobserver.com/users?page=20 …

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I don’t think that is the correct explanation. I believe it’s because the barrier to entry for contributors are lower in Julia than in Python.

Python is still very actively developed, and they would have more contributors if it were easier to do.

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