# What's the JuliaWiki?

**URL:** <https://discourse.julialang.org/t/whats-the-juliawiki/109335>\
**Category:** Community\
**Created:** [January 27, 2024, 9:56am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/whats-the-juliawiki/109335 "2024-01-27T09:56:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![cormullion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/cormullion/32/49131_2.png) [@cormullion](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/cormullion)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 9:56am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/whats-the-juliawiki/109335/1 "2024-01-27T09:56:29Z")

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My searches for Julia-related information are returning results featuring the JuliaWiki.

`www.juliawiki.com/wiki/`

which says:

> Welcome to the definitive resource for the Julia programming language. Whether you are a newcomer or an experienced developer, this wiki aims to provide you with comprehensive information, tutorials, and practical tips to make your Julia programming journey as smooth as possible.

I can’t see any names associated with it.

And there are many wonders to be found:

 ![Screenshot 2024-01-27 at 09.41.04](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/original/3X/9/b/9b36e0de3c63332938fa5228a5139b399dd63792.png)

I’m guessing it’s some kind of experiment with ChatGPT. The primary contributor appears to be very productive too:

 ![Screenshot 2024-01-27 at 09.39.20](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/original/3X/b/2/b28600e522106ef66ec3e2b6b8b9621a24ee604d.png)

I’ve not looked at entries in detail, but I quickly found code like this:

![Screenshot 2024-01-27 at 09.47.33](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/original/3X/8/0/80eec929867b9e1b6bf6202213eb07ed9324dc4d.png)

(which is, curiously, valid but useless code) along with completely made-up links to non-existent sources. I suppose my concern is the amount of inaccurate and unhelpful information that’s there and featuring strongly in search results.

I think some kind of Julia Wiki is a good idea. But I don’t think this is what it should be, though. There should be less wrong code on the internet.

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**Author:** ![carstenbauer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/carstenbauer/32/4981_2.png) [@carstenbauer](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/carstenbauer)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 10:04am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/whats-the-juliawiki/109335/2 "2024-01-27T10:04:24Z")

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“the prestigious Julia University in Digital City” 😂

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**Author:** ![Palli](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/palli/32/3380_2.png) [@Palli](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Palli)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 2:37pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/whats-the-juliawiki/109335/3 "2024-01-27T14:37:14Z")

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I did not know of that Wiki, only the (unofficial, or official there?) Wikibook:

[https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Introducing\_Julia](https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Introducing_Julia)

I try to maintain it, and mostly it seems to be another guy called “cormullion” you might be familiar with 🙂 Which is doing a good job. It doesn’t seem advised to have two competing, but you can’t control stuff on the internet… At least it should consider linking to the wikibook (and vice versa?):

I took a look at:

```julia
juliawiki.com/wiki/Web_Development#Morsel

```

It mentioned Genie (good) and only Morsel. There are some other major packages, and I think Morsel is old, and maybe not used much? And redundant with other (by now) better?

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**Author:** ![cormullion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/cormullion/32/49131_2.png) [@cormullion](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/cormullion)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 3:23pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/whats-the-juliawiki/109335/4 "2024-01-27T15:23:13Z")

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> [@Palli](#):
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> At least it should consider linking to the wikibook (and vice versa?)

I’m not yet convinced that it should be linked to at all…

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**Author:** ![the\_duke](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/the_duke/32/206628_2.png) [@the\_duke](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/the_duke)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 9:40pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/whats-the-juliawiki/109335/5 "2024-01-29T21:40:11Z")

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The juliafan is clearly a bot:  
`julia wiki .com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?hidebots=1&limit=500&days=30&enhanced=1&urlversion=2`

Strange site indeed

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**Author:** ![nsajko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/nsajko/32/221187_2.png) [@nsajko](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/nsajko)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 10:49pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/whats-the-juliawiki/109335/6 "2024-01-29T22:49:39Z")

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Could you not link to them directly? Notice how Cormullion took care to put the Web address into a code block. @Palli same.

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**Author:** ![gdalle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/gdalle/32/27854_2.png) [@gdalle](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/gdalle)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 8:49pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/whats-the-juliawiki/109335/7 "2024-02-02T20:49:50Z")

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JuliaWiki comes up right after the official docs sometimes, which is a bummer. Maybe we could reach out to its creator?

 ![Screenshot 2024-02-02 at 21.48.56](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/original/3X/8/2/821f60540fd4b3ce31a90c836dc97671729062f6.png)

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**Author:** ![nsajko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/nsajko/32/221187_2.png) [@nsajko](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/nsajko)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 8:58pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/whats-the-juliawiki/109335/8 "2024-02-02T20:58:28Z")

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> [@gdalle](#):
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> Maybe we could reach out to its creator?

The site prominently displays Julia’s logo, I think only lawyers should be _reaching out_ here.

I wonder what came of this:

> [@Trademark Guidelines/Fair-Use Policy for Julia name/logo](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/trademark-guidelines-fair-use-policy-for-julia-name-logo/3404/4):
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> We’re in the process of applying for a trademark on the Julia name and sorting out related issues. It’s a bit complicated because the first entity to do business using a name is the one that can apply for a trademark in the US, which means that Julia Computing has to apply for the trademark and then transfer ownership to a foundation – which could be NumFocus or perhaps a standalone Julia Foundation which would exist primarily for the purpose of owning Julia community IP. The foundation would then own the trademark and grant Julia Computing exclusive rights to certain sub-trademarks of the Julia name, which are specifically its products. The foundation would also be able to grant sub-trademarks for things like your JADE product. We’ll get this sorted out in the next few months, and presumably your project won’t be commercial until then.
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> The Julia logo is a different story since that is protected by copyright (perhaps in addition to trademark) and I personally own this copyright as the original creator of the Julia logo. You have my permission to use the Julia logo and create works derived from it for non-commercial purposes. More broadly, we should figure out a creative commons license that’s appropriate for the Julia logo but still allows us to protect the project appropriately. Once the Julia Foundation (maybe NumFocus) exists and has the trademark, we can also transfer copyright of the logo there.

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**Author:** ![nsajko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/nsajko/32/221187_2.png) [@nsajko](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/nsajko)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 9:08pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/whats-the-juliawiki/109335/9 "2024-02-02T21:08:12Z")

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The `wiki/Julia_Wiki:About` page on that site has this as a contact: `info@theresawikiforthat.com`. A Web search for the domain name shows that they target other programming languages, like OCaml and Elixir, too:

> **[What's up with ocamlwiki?](https://discuss.ocaml.org/t/whats-up-with-ocamlwiki/13605)**
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> Hey! I don’t know if anyone has noticed, but at least when I google errors or how to’s, I am often directed to ocamlwiki. I suspect 99% of all articles are just generated with chatGPT, the style of writing is very similar and links seem to be...

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**Author:** ![mnemnion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/mnemnion/32/206596_2.png) [@mnemnion](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/mnemnion)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 10:18pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/whats-the-juliawiki/109335/10 "2024-02-02T22:18:21Z")

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As long as we’re complaining about disreputable sites which cast Julia in a bad light, I wanted to draw attention (but not clicks!) to juliasos . com.

It’s entirely LLM-generated garbage with glaring errors, and it frequently shows up in the first page of search results. Something needs to be done about these parasites.

Getting these sites to shut down is high-effort, but contacting Google and Bing about deboosting them out of existence would solve most of the problem they pose and is easier. That would need to come from some official channel.

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**Author:** ![mbauman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/mbauman/32/31082_2.png) [@mbauman](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/mbauman)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 10:38pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/whats-the-juliawiki/109335/11 "2024-02-02T22:38:19Z")

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Yeah, this seems to be an issue across the board; there are very similar “sos” sites for python, haskell and csharp. 😞

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**Author:** ![BioTurboNick](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/bioturbonick/32/6380_2.png) [@BioTurboNick](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/BioTurboNick)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/whats-the-juliawiki/109335/12 "2024-02-02T22:46:50Z")

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I have a sneaking suspicion that any “wiki” gets a boost in search results.

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**Author:** ![cormullion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/cormullion/32/49131_2.png) [@cormullion](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/cormullion)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 1:50pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/whats-the-juliawiki/109335/13 "2024-02-03T13:50:08Z")

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and these results will be fed into the training process for the next generation of LLMs. What could possibly go wrong? 😂

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**Author:** ![abraemer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/abraemer/32/51403_2.png) [@abraemer](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/abraemer)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 1:57pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/whats-the-juliawiki/109335/14 "2024-02-03T13:57:59Z")

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AI dementia 😆

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**Author:** ![Palli](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/palli/32/3380_2.png) [@Palli](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Palli)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 3:34pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/whats-the-juliawiki/109335/15 "2024-02-03T15:34:54Z")

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I suspected and noticed, it’s a copy of the concept, and even the full legal info:  
`https://www.pythonsos .com/legal/`

> 1. **Accuracy of Information** : PythonSOS is an online platform dedicated to assisting Python developers

For Julia, it still mentions Python, only substituting to JuliaSOS. At first I was confused, to help Python users to migrate, or use together… ?!

At least there they spell syntax with a y.

I suppose the good thing is that Julia is getting popular, noticed.