# What steps should the Julia community take to bring Julia to the next level of popularity?

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> [@dlakelan](#):
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> I actually don’t think the learning curve for Julia is too bad, but I don’t think there’s an obvious single place for someone to go and start climbing that curve effectively. The manual is far to Reference oriented, there is no “official set of getting started tutorials” linked from the [julialang.org](http://julialang.org) front page that would help someone who’s like a biologist with no programming experience, or a second year engineering student who doesn’t want to do something with Matlab for their final project or whatever.

I too think having a high-quality official onboarding tutorial is very important. I’ve mention this [before](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/stipple-reactive-data-dashboards-with-julia-wip/37291/50), but it bears repeating in this context: [the Svelte tutorial](https://learn.svelte.dev/tutorial) is by far the best official online tutorial I’ve seen for any programming language or package. (Svelte is a Javascript framework for reactive UI programming similar to React, but faster and simpler without all the boilerplate - much like Julia.) The tutorial is friendly, attractively designed, declares its prerequisites upfront and eases you into new concepts gently but still fast enough that you can complete it in an hour or two. It relies heavily on interactive illustrative mini-problems, so an online Julia version may have to wait until Julia works reliably with WebAssembly.

In the meantime though, it would be great if Julia had a downloadable interactive tutorial like this with a custom sysimage for instant startup. I don’t think it matters if it’s bloated to a few hundred MB, as long as it’s click-to-run, fast and nearly latency-free. I’d love to help design something like that…

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