# We as a community should be more understanding of Julia's flaws

**URL:** <https://discourse.julialang.org/t/we-as-a-community-should-be-more-understanding-of-julias-flaws/86030>\
**Category:** Community\
**Created:** [August 19, 2022, 5:42pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/we-as-a-community-should-be-more-understanding-of-julias-flaws/86030 "2022-08-19T17:42:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![Nathan\_Boyer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/nathan_boyer/32/14825_2.png) [@Nathan\_Boyer](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Nathan_Boyer)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 1:18pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/we-as-a-community-should-be-more-understanding-of-julias-flaws/86030/51 "2022-08-25T13:18:09Z")

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Do you have a guide on how to do that? Because I have been trying unsuccessfully for months. Environments and package version management are not trivial to me. They are a big problem.

> [@How to use VSCode and REPL to write and test a package?](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/how-to-use-vscode-and-repl-to-write-and-test-a-package/78818/43):
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> Even if I duplicate all the dependencies from the package Project.toml to the test Project.toml, none of the environments use the correct version of DataFrames.

> [@How to use VSCode and REPL to write and test a package?](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/how-to-use-vscode-and-repl-to-write-and-test-a-package/78818/6):
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> Well I got three entirely opposed answers again. Is there not a built-in way that just works? How are new users supposed to take the advice to put all their code in functions and packages if everything breaks when they do? Sorry if I sound ungrateful, but I am really frustrated with this process. Given that reproducible environments and interactive development are two of the most touted features of Julia, I am surprised by how difficult it is to get them to work. Let me ask more direct questions…

> [@How to use VSCode and REPL to write and test a package?](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/how-to-use-vscode-and-repl-to-write-and-test-a-package/78818/50):
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> Welcome! I am also still lost on environments, especially on how to get dependencies, versioning, and namespaces to work consistently among the suggested global, package, test, and example environments. It is especially confusing because the [Pkg documentation](https://pkgdocs.julialang.org/v1/environments/) is barren of any practical advice, and [PkgTemplates does not recommend](https://github.com/invenia/PkgTemplates.jl/issues/345) creating Project.toml files the same way that [Pkg does](https://pkgdocs.julialang.org/v1/creating-packages/#Test-specific-dependencies-in-Julia-1.2-and-above). I have not been able to find a comprehensive guide, so I am still guessing by trial and error. Others can feel f…

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