# Trouble using plots (on macOS)
**URL:** https://discourse.julialang.org/t/trouble-using-plots-on-macos/90182
**Category:** General Usage
**Created:** [November 11, 2022, 11:40pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/trouble-using-plots-on-macos/90182 "2022-11-11T23:40:48Z")
**Posts on this page:** 19
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### Author:  [@Schneeschaufel](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Schneeschaufel)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2022, 11:40pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/trouble-using-plots-on-macos/90182/1 "2022-11-11T23:40:48Z")
And now the next blow I realised pyplot() wouldn’t work on my OSX Ventura.
Recap:
1. Using Plots; pyplot() works on Linux
2. using Plots without pyplot() works on my Ventura (e.g. import Plots as plt; plt.rand(23))
3. using Plots without pyplot() doesn’t work on my work Linux (not tried your empty directory yet)
The following on Ventura will crash the Julia session and I am thrown out from the session and end up with the bash terminal:
**julia\>** using Plots
**julia\>** pyplot()
Plots.PyPlotBackend()
**julia\>** plot(rand(23))
objc[12297]: Class QCocoaPageLayoutDelegate is implemented in both /Users/me/.julia/artifacts/5cb67771651635f5ac02f3a60017effcbeebb119/lib/QtPrintSupport.framework/Versions/5/QtPrintSupport (0x177060480) and /Users/me/.julia/conda/3/lib/libQt5PrintSupport.5.12.9.dylib (0x1de1f43b0). One of the two will be used. Which one is undefined.
objc[12297]: Class QCocoaPrintPanelDelegate is implemented in both /Users/me/.julia/artifacts/5cb67771651635f5ac02f3a60017effcbeebb119/lib/QtPrintSupport.framework/Versions/5/QtPrintSupport (0x1770604f8) and /Users/me/.julia/conda/3/lib/libQt5PrintSupport.5.12.9.dylib (0x1de1f4428). One of the two will be used. Which one is undefined.
qt.qpa.drawing: Layer-backing can not be explicitly controlled on 10.14 when built against the 10.14 SDK
signal (11): Segmentation fault: 11
in expression starting at none:0
\_ZNK7QObject6threadEv at /Users/me/.julia/artifacts/5cb67771651635f5ac02f3a60017effcbeebb119/lib/QtCore.framework/Versions/5/QtCore (unknown line)
\_ZN22QWindowSystemInterface17handleExposeEventINS\_19SynchronousDeliveryEEEvP7QWindowRK7QRegion at /Users/me/.julia/artifacts/5cb67771651635f5ac02f3a60017effcbeebb119/lib/QtGui.framework/Versions/5/QtGui (unknown line)
qt\_plugin\_instance at /Users/me/.julia/conda/3/plugins/platforms/libqcocoa.dylib (unknown line)
qt\_plugin\_instance at /Users/me/.julia/conda/3/plugins/platforms/libqcocoa.dylib (unknown line)
-[\_NSBackingLayer display] at /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit (unknown line)
-[\_NSViewBackingLayer display] at /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit (unknown line)
\_ZN2CA5Layer17display\_if\_neededEPNS\_11TransactionE at /System/Library/Frameworks/QuartzCore.framework/Versions/A/QuartzCore (unknown line)
\_ZN2CA7Context18commit\_transactionEPNS\_11TransactionEdPd at /System/Library/Frameworks/QuartzCore.framework/Versions/A/QuartzCore (unknown line)
\_ZN2CA11Transaction6commitEv at /System/Library/Frameworks/QuartzCore.framework/Versions/A/QuartzCore (unknown line)
\_\_62+[CATransaction(NSCATransaction) NS\_setFlushesWithDisplayLink]\_block\_invoke at /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit (unknown line)
\_\_\_NSRunLoopObserverCreateWithHandler\_block\_invoke at /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit (unknown line)
**CFRUNLOOP\_IS\_CALLING\_OUT\_TO\_AN\_OBSERVER\_CALLBACK\_FUNCTION** at /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation (unknown line)
\_\_CFRunLoopDoObservers at /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation (unknown line)
\_\_CFRunLoopRun at /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation (unknown line)
CFRunLoopRunSpecific at /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation (unknown line)
RunCurrentEventLoopInMode at /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox (unknown line)
ReceiveNextEventCommon at /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox (unknown line)
\_BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInModeWithFilter at /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox (unknown line)
\_DPSNextEvent at /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit (unknown line)
-[NSApplication(NSEvent) \_nextEventMatchingEventMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] at /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit (unknown line)
-[NSApplication run] at /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit (unknown line)
qt\_plugin\_instance at /Users/me/.julia/conda/3/plugins/platforms/libqcocoa.dylib (unknown line)
qt\_plugin\_instance at /Users/me/.julia/conda/3/plugins/platforms/libqcocoa.dylib (unknown line)
\_ZN16QCoreApplication13processEventsE6QFlagsIN10QEventLoop17ProcessEventsFlagEEi at /Users/me/.julia/conda/3/lib/libQt5Core.5.12.9.dylib (unknown line)
_ZL35meth\_QCoreApplication\_processEventsP7\_objectS0\_S0_ at /Users/me/.julia/conda/3/lib/python3.9/site-packages/PyQt5/QtCore.so (unknown line)
cfunction\_call at /Users/me/.julia/conda/3/lib/libpython3.9.dylib (unknown line)
\_PyObject\_Call at /Users/me/.julia/conda/3/lib/libpython3.9.dylib (unknown line)
macro expansion at /Users/me/.julia/packages/PyCall/ygXW2/src/exception.jl:95 [inlined]
#107 at /Users/me/.julia/packages/PyCall/ygXW2/src/pyfncall.jl:43 [inlined]
disable\_ment at ./c.jl:473 [inlined]
\_\_pycall! at /Users/me/.julia/packages/PyCall/ygXW2/src/pyfncall.jl:42 [inlined]
\_pycall! at /Users/me/.julia/packages/PyCall/ygXW2/src/pyfncall.jl:29
\_pycall! at /Users/me/.julia/packages/PyCall/ygXW2/src/pyfncall.jl:11 [inlined]
#pycall#112 at /Users/me/.julia/packages/PyCall/ygXW2/src/pyfncall.jl:80 [inlined]
pycall at /Users/me/.julia/packages/PyCall/ygXW2/src/pyfncall.jl:80 [inlined]
#3 at /Users/me/.julia/packages/PyCall/ygXW2/src/gui.jl:154
macro expansion at ./asyncevent.jl:281 [inlined]
#666 at ./task.jl:134
unknown function (ip: 0x10f29072f)
ijl\_apply\_generic at /Applications/Julia-1.8.2.app/Contents/Resources/julia/lib/julia/libjulia-internal.1.8.dylib (unknown line)
start\_task at /Applications/Julia-1.8.2.app/Contents/Resources/julia/lib/julia/libjulia-internal.1.8.dylib (unknown line)
Allocations: 50233261 (Pool: 50209709; Big: 23552); GC: 36
signal (11): Segmentation fault: 11
in expression starting at none:0
import\_get\_module at /Users/me/.julia/conda/3/lib/libpython3.9.dylib (unknown line)
\_PyImport\_GetModuleId at /Users/me/.julia/conda/3/lib/libpython3.9.dylib (unknown line)
wait\_for\_thread\_shutdown at /Users/me/.julia/conda/3/lib/libpython3.9.dylib (unknown line)
Py\_FinalizeEx at /Users/me/.julia/conda/3/lib/libpython3.9.dylib (unknown line)
Py\_Finalize at /Users/me/.julia/packages/PyCall/ygXW2/src/pyinit.jl:125
unknown function (ip: 0x1e2c0fd0f)
ijl\_apply\_generic at /Applications/Julia-1.8.2.app/Contents/Resources/julia/lib/julia/libjulia-internal.1.8.dylib (unknown line)
\_atexit at ./initdefs.jl:372
unknown function (ip: 0x1e2c0f1af)
ijl\_apply\_generic at /Applications/Julia-1.8.2.app/Contents/Resources/julia/lib/julia/libjulia-internal.1.8.dylib (unknown line)
ijl\_atexit\_hook at /Applications/Julia-1.8.2.app/Contents/Resources/julia/lib/julia/libjulia-internal.1.8.dylib (unknown line)
ijl\_exit at /Applications/Julia-1.8.2.app/Contents/Resources/julia/lib/julia/libjulia-internal.1.8.dylib (unknown line)
jl\_exit\_thread0\_cb at /Applications/Julia-1.8.2.app/Contents/Resources/julia/lib/julia/libjulia-internal.1.8.dylib (unknown line)
Allocations: 51899495 (Pool: 51875245; Big: 24250); GC: 37
signal (11): Segmentation fault: 11
in expression starting at none:0
meth\_dealloc at /Users/me/.julia/conda/3/lib/libpython3.9.dylib (unknown line)
pydecref\_ at /Users/me/.julia/packages/PyCall/ygXW2/src/PyCall.jl:118 [inlined]
pydecref at /Users/me/.julia/packages/PyCall/ygXW2/src/PyCall.jl:123
unknown function (ip: 0x10f23f776)
ijl\_apply\_generic at /Applications/Julia-1.8.2.app/Contents/Resources/julia/lib/julia/libjulia-internal.1.8.dylib (unknown line)
run\_finalizer at /Applications/Julia-1.8.2.app/Contents/Resources/julia/lib/julia/libjulia-internal.1.8.dylib (unknown line)
jl\_gc\_run\_finalizers\_in\_list at /Applications/Julia-1.8.2.app/Contents/Resources/julia/lib/julia/libjulia-internal.1.8.dylib (unknown line)
run\_finalizers at /Applications/Julia-1.8.2.app/Contents/Resources/julia/lib/julia/libjulia-internal.1.8.dylib (unknown line)
ijl\_atexit\_hook at /Applications/Julia-1.8.2.app/Contents/Resources/julia/lib/julia/libjulia-internal.1.8.dylib (unknown line)
ijl\_exit at /Applications/Julia-1.8.2.app/Contents/Resources/julia/lib/julia/libjulia-internal.1.8.dylib (unknown line)
jl\_exit\_thread0\_cb at /Applications/Julia-1.8.2.app/Contents/Resources/julia/lib/julia/libjulia-internal.1.8.dylib (unknown line)
Allocations: 51899495 (Pool: 51875245; Big: 24250); GC: 37
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### Author:  [@Schneeschaufel](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Schneeschaufel)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2022, 12:06am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/trouble-using-plots-on-macos/90182/2 "2022-11-12T00:06:27Z")
> [@Schneeschaufel](#):
>
> 5cb67771651635f5ac02f3a60017effcbeebb119/lib
The files and libs in the directory 5cb67771651635f5ac02f3a60017effcbeebb119/lib have time stamps dating back to the 10th Nov 2022
I cannot remember if I had to build pyplot upon first use 2 days ago and it was pointing to the system wide Python which is different to the one in my .julia/conda/3.
---
### Author:  [@kellertuer](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/kellertuer)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2022, 3:54pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/trouble-using-plots-on-macos/90182/3 "2022-11-12T15:54:22Z")
Can you try with the approach @mcreel mentioned (especially the Pkg and activate part in some empty directory)?
You seem to have several packages installed and here two providing the same Qt stuff. Then it is helpful to have a local environment with not so many packages.
In general having an environment (read about the `Pkg.activate`) is something I recommend also for reproducibility, since that ensures that you get back to the same versions of packages in that folder whenever you activate that environment again.
In other notes, the proposed code by @mcreel works fine for me on Mac OS Ventura.
PS: for code here on discord it helps with readability if you put it in three backtracks like
````markdown
```
using Plots
[... my code ...]
```
````
which looks here like
```julia
using Plots
[... my code ...]
```
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### Author:  [@mkitti](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/mkitti)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2022, 5:39pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/trouble-using-plots-on-macos/90182/4 "2022-11-12T17:39:37Z")
Plots can get complicated. I understand your frustration. I think we need to start with some basic diagnostics though.
In the standard configuration, the Julia packaging system provides the entire binary stack to try to work around potential system issues, including QT. Something is preventing the packaged binaries from loading other packaged binaries they were intended to work with.
The following will help us understand what package versions are being used by Julia. One complication could simply be that your current environment is using outdated versions of packages without some bug fixes.
```julia
using InteractiveUtils
versioninfo()
using Pkg
pkg"status -m"
get(ENV, "LD_LIBRARY_PATH", "not set")
get(ENV, "DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH", "not set")
```
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### Author:  [@Schneeschaufel](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Schneeschaufel)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2022, 9:29pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/trouble-using-plots-on-macos/90182/5 "2022-11-12T21:29:17Z")
Hi mkitti
The long awaited output of the commands you asked me to type in on my macOS Ventura 13.0:
julia\> using InteractiveUtils
julia\> versioninfo()
Julia Version 1.8.2
Commit 36034abf260 (2022-09-29 15:21 UTC)
Platform Info:
OS: macOS (x86\_64-apple-darwin21.4.0)
CPU: 8 × Apple M1
WORD\_SIZE: 64
LIBM: libopenlibm
LLVM: libLLVM-13.0.1 (ORCJIT, westmere)
Threads: 1 on 8 virtual cores
Environment:
DYLD\_FALLBACK\_LIBRARY\_PATH = /Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/979f68ce65b087a39297a97d21aec04b1d4e9d24/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/571cdee3242d2dddfc82ce9b2b9a25ba523c78e9/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/dcc1b7719d5a106fba77bbc272d231e163d15fe5/lib:/Applications/Julia-1.8.2.app/Contents/Resources/julia/lib/julia:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/ff3a519cd5338603e027bb508416673c2c28e6b9/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/397fee52d94fc3404c3e466a6a8277ad9fdde715/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/2be77ffa9a848f4e33c1f669df27f107a20e895f/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/5d8d2f8a7579b33069ae2ae9079c4523d1947d13/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/9194d75745cbb36d5b00e2b1891b2ec6e8c1e2b5/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/efdd3b2e618e4acb959083d2af453a91551b04e9/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/3bb83a2812f716f0d1610026d1e470dbf92a952e/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/2cb0d96a63120d1a0868c905452895a59add9a0d/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/f9fc72c9167a476e5c5fec8942270c90e0ffc796/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/ed6b32736e29cb60fa5bf838e140f50a6f4e09e6/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/946f590bc9f9b0b0b7978a8481f067c6e611c522/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/fb5ebcbea6d2f03cf79fe1bf6aa237f4929b1d2d/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/3a10d140fdfe84ac9bebb570319e9d173d5c7e6c/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/f9f9209aaba179c03a71fa49432487fbe41daac8/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/d4387ba5551f47f3733c2b041a7745c29b35c26e/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/fe0276d289339d47a28d300125365cc9bcd019b7/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/13d72f9c10469b24ae6ed7dd1a3b2ab5338ae2ab/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/572714f8bb8cb23efde4bcd230b638bc3cd7ef00/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/e82fc967ae7f655963b97d4565e3a93c74bd38fa/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/966098580a6feebc43e729bf20dbb97848be4663/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/bbb69711f9eab313bab4f202da8fbae8c1914a96/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/f8a8563518ab10e9a9c9639e3f7334be68d5e04b/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/a50227ae6f693d36e10f6515b7b5d601791f2d20/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/1e28bb4254c27b51008f9e1839edee3406036044/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/54253779fac0a65601dab59d1e7249b501ff9f71/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/f8a9dc14e1939d9682af2c038464fd76c93ccf7d/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/d3f66a1beb37e7d6778ecff998c64c2807d19c9f/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/2052a4bef64c555c78e154a23af351725ced4885/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/ecab94b6925ea0d5e3a0e3d59e3620339ea3f463/lib:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/5cb67771651635f5ac02f3a60017effcbeebb119/lib/QtConcurrent.framework/Versions/5:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/5cb67771651635f5ac02f3a60017effcbeebb119/lib/QtCore.framework/Versions/5:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/5cb67771651635f5ac02f3a60017effcbeebb119/lib/QtDBus.framework/Versions/5:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/5cb67771651635f5ac02f3a60017effcbeebb119/lib/QtGui.framework/Versions/5:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/5cb67771651635f5ac02f3a60017effcbeebb119/lib/QtNetwork.framework/Versions/5:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/5cb67771651635f5ac02f3a60017effcbeebb119/lib/QtOpenGL.framework/Versions/5:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/5cb67771651635f5ac02f3a60017effcbeebb119/lib/QtPrintSupport.framework/Versions/5:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/5cb67771651635f5ac02f3a60017effcbeebb119/lib/QtSql.framework/Versions/5:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/5cb67771651635f5ac02f3a60017effcbeebb119/lib/QtTest.framework/Versions/5:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/5cb67771651635f5ac02f3a60017effcbeebb119/lib/QtWidgets.framework/Versions/5:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/5cb67771651635f5ac02f3a60017effcbeebb119/lib/QtXml.framework/Versions/5:/Users/prodigy/.julia/artifacts/8255c706e5d1047f05d10411167d923e31536d23/lib:/Applications/Julia-1.8.2.app/Contents/Resources/julia/bin/…/lib/julia:/Applications/Julia-1.8.2.app/Contents/Resources/julia/bin/…/lib:
julia\> using Pkg
julia\> pkg"status -m"
Status `~/.julia/environments/v1.8/Manifest.toml`
⌃ [d1d4a3ce] BitFlags v0.1.5
[159f3aea] Cairo v1.0.5
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[c3611d14] ColorVectorSpace v0.9.9
[5ae59095] Colors v0.12.8
[34da2185] Compat v4.3.0
[8f4d0f93] Conda v1.7.0
[d38c429a] Contour v0.6.2
[9a962f9c] DataAPI v1.13.0
[864edb3b] DataStructures v0.18.13
[ffbed154] DocStringExtensions v0.9.2
[c87230d0] FFMPEG v0.4.1
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[53c48c17] FixedPointNumbers v0.8.4
[59287772] Formatting v0.4.2
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[a2bd30eb] Graphics v1.1.2
[42e2da0e] Grisu v1.0.2
[cd3eb016] HTTP v1.5.3
[83e8ac13] IniFile v0.5.1
[3587e190] InverseFunctions v0.1.8
[92d709cd] IrrationalConstants v0.1.1
[1019f520] JLFzf v0.1.5
[692b3bcd] JLLWrappers v1.4.1
[682c06a0] JSON v0.21.3
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[e5e0dc1b] Juno v0.8.4
[b964fa9f] LaTeXStrings v1.3.0
[23fbe1c1] Latexify v0.15.17
[9c8b4983] LightXML v0.9.0
[2ab3a3ac] LogExpFunctions v0.3.18
[e6f89c97] LoggingExtras v0.4.9
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[1914dd2f] MacroTools v0.5.10
[739be429] MbedTLS v1.1.7
[442fdcdd] Measures v0.3.1
[e89f7d12] Media v0.5.0
[e1d29d7a] Missings v1.0.2
[77ba4419] NaNMath v1.0.1
[4d8831e6] OpenSSL v1.3.1
[bac558e1] OrderedCollections v1.4.1
[69de0a69] Parsers v2.5.0
[b98c9c47] Pipe v1.3.0
[ccf2f8ad] PlotThemes v3.1.0
[995b91a9] PlotUtils v1.3.1
[91a5bcdd] Plots v1.36.1
[21216c6a] Preferences v1.3.0
[438e738f] PyCall v1.94.1
[d330b81b] PyPlot v2.11.0
[3cdcf5f2] RecipesBase v1.3.1
[01d81517] RecipesPipeline v0.6.10
[189a3867] Reexport v1.2.2
[05181044] RelocatableFolders v1.0.0
[ae029012] Requires v1.3.0
[c4c386cf] Rsvg v1.0.0
[6c6a2e73] Scratch v1.1.1
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[777ac1f9] SimpleBufferStream v1.1.0
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[276daf66] SpecialFunctions v2.1.7
[82ae8749] StatsAPI v1.5.0
[2913bbd2] StatsBase v0.33.21
[62fd8b95] TensorCore v0.1.1
[3bb67fe8] TranscodingStreams v0.9.9
[5c2747f8] URIs v1.4.0
[1cfade01] UnicodeFun v0.4.1
[41fe7b60] Unzip v0.2.0
[81def892] VersionParsing v1.3.0
[6e34b625] Bzip2\_jll v1.0.8+0
[83423d85] Cairo\_jll v1.16.1+1
[2e619515] Expat\_jll v2.4.8+0
[b22a6f82] FFMPEG\_jll v4.4.2+2
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⌅ [d2c73de3] GR\_jll v0.69.1+0
[78b55507] Gettext\_jll v0.21.0+0
[7746bdde] Glib\_jll v2.74.0+1
[3b182d85] Graphite2\_jll v1.3.14+0
[2e76f6c2] HarfBuzz\_jll v2.8.1+1
[aacddb02] JpegTurbo\_jll v2.1.2+0
[c1c5ebd0] LAME\_jll v3.100.1+0
[88015f11] LERC\_jll v3.0.0+1
[dd4b983a] LZO\_jll v2.10.1+0
⌅ [e9f186c6] Libffi\_jll v3.2.2+1
[d4300ac3] Libgcrypt\_jll v1.8.7+0
[7e76a0d4] Libglvnd\_jll v1.3.0+3
[7add5ba3] Libgpg\_error\_jll v1.42.0+0
[94ce4f54] Libiconv\_jll v1.16.1+1
[4b2f31a3] Libmount\_jll v2.35.0+0
[925c91fb] Librsvg\_jll v2.52.4+0
[89763e89] Libtiff\_jll v4.4.0+0
[38a345b3] Libuuid\_jll v2.36.0+0
[e7412a2a] Ogg\_jll v1.3.5+1
[458c3c95] OpenSSL\_jll v1.1.19+0
[efe28fd5] OpenSpecFun\_jll v0.5.5+0
[91d4177d] Opus\_jll v1.3.2+0
[36c8627f] Pango\_jll v1.50.9+0
[30392449] Pixman\_jll v0.40.1+0
[ea2cea3b] Qt5Base\_jll v5.15.3+2
[a2964d1f] Wayland\_jll v1.19.0+0
[2381bf8a] Wayland\_protocols\_jll v1.25.0+0
[02c8fc9c] XML2\_jll v2.9.14+0
[aed1982a] XSLT\_jll v1.1.34+0
[4f6342f7] Xorg\_libX11\_jll v1.6.9+4
[0c0b7dd1] Xorg\_libXau\_jll v1.0.9+4
[935fb764] Xorg\_libXcursor\_jll v1.2.0+4
[a3789734] Xorg\_libXdmcp\_jll v1.1.3+4
[1082639a] Xorg\_libXext\_jll v1.3.4+4
[d091e8ba] Xorg\_libXfixes\_jll v5.0.3+4
[a51aa0fd] Xorg\_libXi\_jll v1.7.10+4
[d1454406] Xorg\_libXinerama\_jll v1.1.4+4
[ec84b674] Xorg\_libXrandr\_jll v1.5.2+4
[ea2f1a96] Xorg\_libXrender\_jll v0.9.10+4
[14d82f49] Xorg\_libpthread\_stubs\_jll v0.1.0+3
[c7cfdc94] Xorg\_libxcb\_jll v1.13.0+3
[cc61e674] Xorg\_libxkbfile\_jll v1.1.0+4
[12413925] Xorg\_xcb\_util\_image\_jll v0.4.0+1
[2def613f] Xorg\_xcb\_util\_jll v0.4.0+1
[975044d2] Xorg\_xcb\_util\_keysyms\_jll v0.4.0+1
[0d47668e] Xorg\_xcb\_util\_renderutil\_jll v0.3.9+1
[c22f9ab0] Xorg\_xcb\_util\_wm\_jll v0.4.1+1
[35661453] Xorg\_xkbcomp\_jll v1.4.2+4
[33bec58e] Xorg\_xkeyboard\_config\_jll v2.27.0+4
[c5fb5394] Xorg\_xtrans\_jll v1.4.0+3
[3161d3a3] Zstd\_jll v1.5.2+0
⌅ [214eeab7] fzf\_jll v0.29.0+0
[da03df04] gdk\_pixbuf\_jll v2.42.8+0
[a4ae2306] libaom\_jll v3.4.0+0
[0ac62f75] libass\_jll v0.15.1+0
[f638f0a6] libfdk\_aac\_jll v2.0.2+0
[b53b4c65] libpng\_jll v1.6.38+0
[f27f6e37] libvorbis\_jll v1.3.7+1
[1270edf5] x264\_jll v2021.5.5+0
[dfaa095f] x265\_jll v3.5.0+0
[d8fb68d0] xkbcommon\_jll v1.4.1+0
[0dad84c5] ArgTools v1.1.1
[56f22d72] Artifacts
[2a0f44e3] Base64
[ade2ca70] Dates
[8bb1440f] DelimitedFiles
[f43a241f] Downloads v1.6.0
[7b1f6079] FileWatching
[b77e0a4c] InteractiveUtils
[b27032c2] LibCURL v0.6.3
[76f85450] LibGit2
[8f399da3] Libdl
[37e2e46d] LinearAlgebra
[56ddb016] Logging
[d6f4376e] Markdown
[a63ad114] Mmap
[ca575930] NetworkOptions v1.2.0
[44cfe95a] Pkg v1.8.0
[de0858da] Printf
[9abbd945] Profile
[3fa0cd96] REPL
[9a3f8284] Random
[ea8e919c] SHA v0.7.0
[9e88b42a] Serialization
[6462fe0b] Sockets
[2f01184e] SparseArrays
[10745b16] Statistics
[fa267f1f] TOML v1.0.0
[a4e569a6] Tar v1.10.1
[8dfed614] Test
[cf7118a7] UUIDs
[4ec0a83e] Unicode
[e66e0078] CompilerSupportLibraries\_jll v0.5.2+0
[deac9b47] LibCURL\_jll v7.84.0+0
[29816b5a] LibSSH2\_jll v1.10.2+0
[c8ffd9c3] MbedTLS\_jll v2.28.0+0
[14a3606d] MozillaCACerts\_jll v2022.2.1
[4536629a] OpenBLAS\_jll v0.3.20+0
[05823500] OpenLibm\_jll v0.8.1+0
[efcefdf7] PCRE2\_jll v10.40.0+0
[83775a58] Zlib\_jll v1.2.12+3
[8e850b90] libblastrampoline\_jll v5.1.1+0
[8e850ede] nghttp2\_jll v1.48.0+0
[3f19e933] p7zip\_jll v17.4.0+0
Info Packages marked with ⌃ and ⌅ have new versions available, but those with ⌅ are restricted by compatibility constraints from upgrading. To see why use `status --outdated -m`
julia\> get(ENV, “LD\_LIBRARY\_PATH”, “not set”)
“not set”
julia\> get(ENV, “DYLD\_LIBRARY\_PATH”, “not set”)
“not set”
julia\>
---
### Author:  [@mkitti](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/mkitti)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2022, 9:47pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/trouble-using-plots-on-macos/90182/6 "2022-11-12T21:47:30Z")
On the Mac, the issue, as you assessed, is that two different QT libraries are being loaded. GR\_jll in particular is automatically loaded as of GR 0.68 and Plots 1.34.
One way to address this issue is downgrade Plots to version 1.33.
```nohighlight
using Pkg
pkg"add Plots@1.33"
```
Another option is to use `PyPlot.jl` or `PythonPlot.jl` directly.
```julia
using Pkg
pkg"add PyPlot"
using PyPlot
```
Alternatively,
```julia
using Pkg
pkg"add PythonPlot"
using PythonPlot
```
Unfortunately, the interface to PyPlot.jl differs slightly from Plots.jl
---
### Author:  [@mkitti](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/mkitti)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2022, 10:00pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/trouble-using-plots-on-macos/90182/7 "2022-11-12T22:00:16Z")
By the way, I just tried on my Mac M1 and things seemed to work more smoothly for me. I tried Julia 1.7.3 and Julia 1.8.2:
> **Diagnostic Output of my Mac Environment using Julia 1.7.3**
>
> ```julia
> julia> using InteractiveUtils
>
> julia> versioninfo()
> Julia Version 1.7.3
> Commit 742b9abb4d (2022-05-06 12:58 UTC)
> Platform Info:
> OS: macOS (x86_64-apple-darwin21.4.0)
> CPU: Apple M1 Max
> WORD_SIZE: 64
> LIBM: libopenlibm
> LLVM: libLLVM-12.0.1 (ORCJIT, westmere)
>
> julia> using Pkg
>
> julia> pkg"status -m"
> Status `/private/var/folders/5j/phv_vfc97m967ww98fbvtmfr0000gq/T/jl_UHZFZW/Manifest.toml`
> [d1d4a3ce] BitFlags v0.1.6
> [d360d2e6] ChainRulesCore v1.15.6
> [9e997f8a] ChangesOfVariables v0.1.4
> [944b1d66] CodecZlib v0.7.0
> [35d6a980] ColorSchemes v3.19.0
> [3da002f7] ColorTypes v0.11.4
> [c3611d14] ColorVectorSpace v0.9.9
> [5ae59095] Colors v0.12.8
> [34da2185] Compat v4.3.0
> [8f4d0f93] Conda v1.7.0
> [d38c429a] Contour v0.6.2
> [9a962f9c] DataAPI v1.13.0
> [864edb3b] DataStructures v0.18.13
> [ffbed154] DocStringExtensions v0.9.2
> [c87230d0] FFMPEG v0.4.1
> [53c48c17] FixedPointNumbers v0.8.4
> [59287772] Formatting v0.4.2
> [28b8d3ca] GR v0.69.5
> [42e2da0e] Grisu v1.0.2
> [cd3eb016] HTTP v1.5.3
> [83e8ac13] IniFile v0.5.1
> [3587e190] InverseFunctions v0.1.8
> [92d709cd] IrrationalConstants v0.1.1
> [1019f520] JLFzf v0.1.5
> [692b3bcd] JLLWrappers v1.4.1
> [682c06a0] JSON v0.21.3
> [b964fa9f] LaTeXStrings v1.3.0
> [23fbe1c1] Latexify v0.15.17
> [2ab3a3ac] LogExpFunctions v0.3.18
> [e6f89c97] LoggingExtras v0.4.9
> [1914dd2f] MacroTools v0.5.10
> [739be429] MbedTLS v1.1.7
> [442fdcdd] Measures v0.3.1
> [e1d29d7a] Missings v1.0.2
> [77ba4419] NaNMath v1.0.1
> [4d8831e6] OpenSSL v1.3.1
> [bac558e1] OrderedCollections v1.4.1
> [69de0a69] Parsers v2.5.0
> [b98c9c47] Pipe v1.3.0
> [ccf2f8ad] PlotThemes v3.1.0
> [995b91a9] PlotUtils v1.3.1
> [91a5bcdd] Plots v1.36.1
> [21216c6a] Preferences v1.3.0
> [438e738f] PyCall v1.94.1
> [d330b81b] PyPlot v2.11.0
> [3cdcf5f2] RecipesBase v1.3.1
> [01d81517] RecipesPipeline v0.6.10
> [189a3867] Reexport v1.2.2
> [05181044] RelocatableFolders v1.0.0
> [ae029012] Requires v1.3.0
> [6c6a2e73] Scratch v1.1.1
> [992d4aef] Showoff v1.0.3
> [777ac1f9] SimpleBufferStream v1.1.0
> [66db9d55] SnoopPrecompile v1.0.1
> [a2af1166] SortingAlgorithms v1.0.1
> [276daf66] SpecialFunctions v2.1.7
> [82ae8749] StatsAPI v1.5.0
> [2913bbd2] StatsBase v0.33.21
> [62fd8b95] TensorCore v0.1.1
> [3bb67fe8] TranscodingStreams v0.9.9
> [5c2747f8] URIs v1.4.0
> [1cfade01] UnicodeFun v0.4.1
> [41fe7b60] Unzip v0.2.0
> [81def892] VersionParsing v1.3.0
> [6e34b625] Bzip2_jll v1.0.8+0
> [83423d85] Cairo_jll v1.16.1+1
> [2e619515] Expat_jll v2.4.8+0
> [b22a6f82] FFMPEG_jll v4.4.2+2
> [a3f928ae] Fontconfig_jll v2.13.93+0
> [d7e528f0] FreeType2_jll v2.10.4+0
> [559328eb] FriBidi_jll v1.0.10+0
> [0656b61e] GLFW_jll v3.3.8+0
> [d2c73de3] GR_jll v0.69.1+0
> [78b55507] Gettext_jll v0.21.0+0
> [7746bdde] Glib_jll v2.74.0+1
> [3b182d85] Graphite2_jll v1.3.14+0
> [2e76f6c2] HarfBuzz_jll v2.8.1+1
> [aacddb02] JpegTurbo_jll v2.1.2+0
> [c1c5ebd0] LAME_jll v3.100.1+0
> [88015f11] LERC_jll v3.0.0+1
> [dd4b983a] LZO_jll v2.10.1+0
> [e9f186c6] Libffi_jll v3.2.2+1
> [d4300ac3] Libgcrypt_jll v1.8.7+0
> [7e76a0d4] Libglvnd_jll v1.3.0+3
> [7add5ba3] Libgpg_error_jll v1.42.0+0
> [94ce4f54] Libiconv_jll v1.16.1+1
> [4b2f31a3] Libmount_jll v2.35.0+0
> [89763e89] Libtiff_jll v4.4.0+0
> [38a345b3] Libuuid_jll v2.36.0+0
> [e7412a2a] Ogg_jll v1.3.5+1
> [458c3c95] OpenSSL_jll v1.1.19+0
> [efe28fd5] OpenSpecFun_jll v0.5.5+0
> [91d4177d] Opus_jll v1.3.2+0
> [30392449] Pixman_jll v0.40.1+0
> [ea2cea3b] Qt5Base_jll v5.15.3+2
> [a2964d1f] Wayland_jll v1.19.0+0
> [2381bf8a] Wayland_protocols_jll v1.25.0+0
> [02c8fc9c] XML2_jll v2.9.14+0
> [aed1982a] XSLT_jll v1.1.34+0
> [4f6342f7] Xorg_libX11_jll v1.6.9+4
> [0c0b7dd1] Xorg_libXau_jll v1.0.9+4
> [935fb764] Xorg_libXcursor_jll v1.2.0+4
> [a3789734] Xorg_libXdmcp_jll v1.1.3+4
> [1082639a] Xorg_libXext_jll v1.3.4+4
> [d091e8ba] Xorg_libXfixes_jll v5.0.3+4
> [a51aa0fd] Xorg_libXi_jll v1.7.10+4
> [d1454406] Xorg_libXinerama_jll v1.1.4+4
> [ec84b674] Xorg_libXrandr_jll v1.5.2+4
> [ea2f1a96] Xorg_libXrender_jll v0.9.10+4
> [14d82f49] Xorg_libpthread_stubs_jll v0.1.0+3
> [c7cfdc94] Xorg_libxcb_jll v1.13.0+3
> [cc61e674] Xorg_libxkbfile_jll v1.1.0+4
> [12413925] Xorg_xcb_util_image_jll v0.4.0+1
> [2def613f] Xorg_xcb_util_jll v0.4.0+1
> [975044d2] Xorg_xcb_util_keysyms_jll v0.4.0+1
> [0d47668e] Xorg_xcb_util_renderutil_jll v0.3.9+1
> [c22f9ab0] Xorg_xcb_util_wm_jll v0.4.1+1
> [35661453] Xorg_xkbcomp_jll v1.4.2+4
> [33bec58e] Xorg_xkeyboard_config_jll v2.27.0+4
> [c5fb5394] Xorg_xtrans_jll v1.4.0+3
> [3161d3a3] Zstd_jll v1.5.2+0
> [214eeab7] fzf_jll v0.29.0+0
> [a4ae2306] libaom_jll v3.4.0+0
> [0ac62f75] libass_jll v0.15.1+0
> [f638f0a6] libfdk_aac_jll v2.0.2+0
> [b53b4c65] libpng_jll v1.6.38+0
> [f27f6e37] libvorbis_jll v1.3.7+1
> [1270edf5] x264_jll v2021.5.5+0
> [dfaa095f] x265_jll v3.5.0+0
> [d8fb68d0] xkbcommon_jll v1.4.1+0
> [0dad84c5] ArgTools
> [56f22d72] Artifacts
> [2a0f44e3] Base64
> [ade2ca70] Dates
> [8bb1440f] DelimitedFiles
> [f43a241f] Downloads
> [7b1f6079] FileWatching
> [b77e0a4c] InteractiveUtils
> [b27032c2] LibCURL
> [76f85450] LibGit2
> [8f399da3] Libdl
> [37e2e46d] LinearAlgebra
> [56ddb016] Logging
> [d6f4376e] Markdown
> [a63ad114] Mmap
> [ca575930] NetworkOptions
> [44cfe95a] Pkg
> [de0858da] Printf
> [3fa0cd96] REPL
> [9a3f8284] Random
> [ea8e919c] SHA
> [9e88b42a] Serialization
> [6462fe0b] Sockets
> [2f01184e] SparseArrays
> [10745b16] Statistics
> [fa267f1f] TOML
> [a4e569a6] Tar
> [8dfed614] Test
> [cf7118a7] UUIDs
> [4ec0a83e] Unicode
> [e66e0078] CompilerSupportLibraries_jll
> [deac9b47] LibCURL_jll
> [29816b5a] LibSSH2_jll
> [c8ffd9c3] MbedTLS_jll
> [14a3606d] MozillaCACerts_jll
> [4536629a] OpenBLAS_jll
> [05823500] OpenLibm_jll
> [efcefdf7] PCRE2_jll
> [83775a58] Zlib_jll
> [8e850b90] libblastrampoline_jll
> [8e850ede] nghttp2_jll
> [3f19e933] p7zip_jll
>
> julia> get(ENV, "LD_LIBRARY_PATH", "not set")
> "not set"
>
> julia> get(ENV, "DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH", "not set")
> "not set"
>
> ```
> **Diagnostic Output of my Mac Environment using Julia 1.8.2**
>
> ```julia
> julia> using InteractiveUtils
>
> julia> versioninfo()
> Julia Version 1.8.2
> Commit 36034abf260 (2022-09-29 15:21 UTC)
> Platform Info:
> OS: macOS (arm64-apple-darwin21.3.0)
> CPU: 10 × Apple M1 Max
> WORD_SIZE: 64
> LIBM: libopenlibm
> LLVM: libLLVM-13.0.1 (ORCJIT, apple-m1)
> Threads: 1 on 8 virtual cores
>
> julia> using Pkg
>
> julia> pkg"status -m"
> Status `/private/var/folders/5j/phv_vfc97m967ww98fbvtmfr0000gq/T/jl_zmjWS7/Manifest.toml`
> [d1d4a3ce] BitFlags v0.1.6
> [d360d2e6] ChainRulesCore v1.15.6
> [9e997f8a] ChangesOfVariables v0.1.4
> [944b1d66] CodecZlib v0.7.0
> [35d6a980] ColorSchemes v3.19.0
> [3da002f7] ColorTypes v0.11.4
> [c3611d14] ColorVectorSpace v0.9.9
> [5ae59095] Colors v0.12.8
> [34da2185] Compat v4.3.0
> [8f4d0f93] Conda v1.7.0
> [d38c429a] Contour v0.6.2
> [9a962f9c] DataAPI v1.13.0
> [864edb3b] DataStructures v0.18.13
> [ffbed154] DocStringExtensions v0.9.2
> [c87230d0] FFMPEG v0.4.1
> [53c48c17] FixedPointNumbers v0.8.4
> [59287772] Formatting v0.4.2
> ⌅ [28b8d3ca] GR v0.69.5
> [42e2da0e] Grisu v1.0.2
> [cd3eb016] HTTP v1.5.3
> [83e8ac13] IniFile v0.5.1
> [3587e190] InverseFunctions v0.1.8
> [92d709cd] IrrationalConstants v0.1.1
> [1019f520] JLFzf v0.1.5
> [692b3bcd] JLLWrappers v1.4.1
> [682c06a0] JSON v0.21.3
> [b964fa9f] LaTeXStrings v1.3.0
> [23fbe1c1] Latexify v0.15.17
> [2ab3a3ac] LogExpFunctions v0.3.18
> [e6f89c97] LoggingExtras v0.4.9
> [1914dd2f] MacroTools v0.5.10
> [739be429] MbedTLS v1.1.7
> [442fdcdd] Measures v0.3.1
> [e1d29d7a] Missings v1.0.2
> [77ba4419] NaNMath v1.0.1
> [4d8831e6] OpenSSL v1.3.1
> [bac558e1] OrderedCollections v1.4.1
> [69de0a69] Parsers v2.5.0
> [b98c9c47] Pipe v1.3.0
> [ccf2f8ad] PlotThemes v3.1.0
> [995b91a9] PlotUtils v1.3.1
> [91a5bcdd] Plots v1.36.1
> [21216c6a] Preferences v1.3.0
> [438e738f] PyCall v1.94.1
> [d330b81b] PyPlot v2.11.0
> [3cdcf5f2] RecipesBase v1.3.1
> [01d81517] RecipesPipeline v0.6.10
> [189a3867] Reexport v1.2.2
> [05181044] RelocatableFolders v1.0.0
> [ae029012] Requires v1.3.0
> [6c6a2e73] Scratch v1.1.1
> [992d4aef] Showoff v1.0.3
> [777ac1f9] SimpleBufferStream v1.1.0
> [66db9d55] SnoopPrecompile v1.0.1
> [a2af1166] SortingAlgorithms v1.0.1
> [276daf66] SpecialFunctions v2.1.7
> [82ae8749] StatsAPI v1.5.0
> [2913bbd2] StatsBase v0.33.21
> [62fd8b95] TensorCore v0.1.1
> [3bb67fe8] TranscodingStreams v0.9.9
> [5c2747f8] URIs v1.4.0
> [1cfade01] UnicodeFun v0.4.1
> [41fe7b60] Unzip v0.2.0
> [81def892] VersionParsing v1.3.0
> [6e34b625] Bzip2_jll v1.0.8+0
> [83423d85] Cairo_jll v1.16.1+1
> [2e619515] Expat_jll v2.4.8+0
> [b22a6f82] FFMPEG_jll v4.4.2+2
> [a3f928ae] Fontconfig_jll v2.13.93+0
> [d7e528f0] FreeType2_jll v2.10.4+0
> [559328eb] FriBidi_jll v1.0.10+0
> [0656b61e] GLFW_jll v3.3.8+0
> ⌅ [d2c73de3] GR_jll v0.69.1+0
> [78b55507] Gettext_jll v0.21.0+0
> [7746bdde] Glib_jll v2.74.0+1
> [3b182d85] Graphite2_jll v1.3.14+0
> [2e76f6c2] HarfBuzz_jll v2.8.1+1
> [aacddb02] JpegTurbo_jll v2.1.2+0
> [c1c5ebd0] LAME_jll v3.100.1+0
> [88015f11] LERC_jll v3.0.0+1
> [dd4b983a] LZO_jll v2.10.1+0
> ⌅ [e9f186c6] Libffi_jll v3.2.2+1
> [d4300ac3] Libgcrypt_jll v1.8.7+0
> [7e76a0d4] Libglvnd_jll v1.3.0+3
> [7add5ba3] Libgpg_error_jll v1.42.0+0
> [94ce4f54] Libiconv_jll v1.16.1+1
> [4b2f31a3] Libmount_jll v2.35.0+0
> [89763e89] Libtiff_jll v4.4.0+0
> [38a345b3] Libuuid_jll v2.36.0+0
> [e7412a2a] Ogg_jll v1.3.5+1
> [458c3c95] OpenSSL_jll v1.1.19+0
> [efe28fd5] OpenSpecFun_jll v0.5.5+0
> [91d4177d] Opus_jll v1.3.2+0
> [30392449] Pixman_jll v0.40.1+0
> [ea2cea3b] Qt5Base_jll v5.15.3+2
> [a2964d1f] Wayland_jll v1.19.0+0
> [2381bf8a] Wayland_protocols_jll v1.25.0+0
> [02c8fc9c] XML2_jll v2.9.14+0
> [aed1982a] XSLT_jll v1.1.34+0
> [4f6342f7] Xorg_libX11_jll v1.6.9+4
> [0c0b7dd1] Xorg_libXau_jll v1.0.9+4
> [935fb764] Xorg_libXcursor_jll v1.2.0+4
> [a3789734] Xorg_libXdmcp_jll v1.1.3+4
> [1082639a] Xorg_libXext_jll v1.3.4+4
> [d091e8ba] Xorg_libXfixes_jll v5.0.3+4
> [a51aa0fd] Xorg_libXi_jll v1.7.10+4
> [d1454406] Xorg_libXinerama_jll v1.1.4+4
> [ec84b674] Xorg_libXrandr_jll v1.5.2+4
> [ea2f1a96] Xorg_libXrender_jll v0.9.10+4
> [14d82f49] Xorg_libpthread_stubs_jll v0.1.0+3
> [c7cfdc94] Xorg_libxcb_jll v1.13.0+3
> [cc61e674] Xorg_libxkbfile_jll v1.1.0+4
> [12413925] Xorg_xcb_util_image_jll v0.4.0+1
> [2def613f] Xorg_xcb_util_jll v0.4.0+1
> [975044d2] Xorg_xcb_util_keysyms_jll v0.4.0+1
> [0d47668e] Xorg_xcb_util_renderutil_jll v0.3.9+1
> [c22f9ab0] Xorg_xcb_util_wm_jll v0.4.1+1
> [35661453] Xorg_xkbcomp_jll v1.4.2+4
> [33bec58e] Xorg_xkeyboard_config_jll v2.27.0+4
> [c5fb5394] Xorg_xtrans_jll v1.4.0+3
> [3161d3a3] Zstd_jll v1.5.2+0
> ⌅ [214eeab7] fzf_jll v0.29.0+0
> [a4ae2306] libaom_jll v3.4.0+0
> [0ac62f75] libass_jll v0.15.1+0
> [f638f0a6] libfdk_aac_jll v2.0.2+0
> [b53b4c65] libpng_jll v1.6.38+0
> [f27f6e37] libvorbis_jll v1.3.7+1
> [1270edf5] x264_jll v2021.5.5+0
> [dfaa095f] x265_jll v3.5.0+0
> [d8fb68d0] xkbcommon_jll v1.4.1+0
> [0dad84c5] ArgTools v1.1.1
> [56f22d72] Artifacts
> [2a0f44e3] Base64
> [ade2ca70] Dates
> [8bb1440f] DelimitedFiles
> [f43a241f] Downloads v1.6.0
> [7b1f6079] FileWatching
> [b77e0a4c] InteractiveUtils
> [b27032c2] LibCURL v0.6.3
> [76f85450] LibGit2
> [8f399da3] Libdl
> [37e2e46d] LinearAlgebra
> [56ddb016] Logging
> [d6f4376e] Markdown
> [a63ad114] Mmap
> [ca575930] NetworkOptions v1.2.0
> [44cfe95a] Pkg v1.8.0
> [de0858da] Printf
> [3fa0cd96] REPL
> [9a3f8284] Random
> [ea8e919c] SHA v0.7.0
> [9e88b42a] Serialization
> [6462fe0b] Sockets
> [2f01184e] SparseArrays
> [10745b16] Statistics
> [fa267f1f] TOML v1.0.0
> [a4e569a6] Tar v1.10.1
> [8dfed614] Test
> [cf7118a7] UUIDs
> [4ec0a83e] Unicode
> [e66e0078] CompilerSupportLibraries_jll v0.5.2+0
> [deac9b47] LibCURL_jll v7.84.0+0
> [29816b5a] LibSSH2_jll v1.10.2+0
> [c8ffd9c3] MbedTLS_jll v2.28.0+0
> [14a3606d] MozillaCACerts_jll v2022.2.1
> [4536629a] OpenBLAS_jll v0.3.20+0
> [05823500] OpenLibm_jll v0.8.1+0
> [efcefdf7] PCRE2_jll v10.40.0+0
> [83775a58] Zlib_jll v1.2.12+3
> [8e850b90] libblastrampoline_jll v5.1.1+0
> [8e850ede] nghttp2_jll v1.48.0+0
> [3f19e933] p7zip_jll v17.4.0+0
> Info Packages marked with ⌅ have new versions available but compatibility constraints restrict them from upgrading. To see why use `status --outdated -m`
>
> julia> get(ENV, "LD_LIBRARY_PATH", "not set")
> "not set"
>
> julia> get(ENV, "DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH", "not set")
> "not set"
>
> ```
---
### Author:  [@mkitti](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/mkitti)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2022, 10:10pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/trouble-using-plots-on-macos/90182/8 "2022-11-12T22:10:52Z")
One thing I did not check was your Conda environment.
Could you run:
```julia
using Pkg
pkg"add Conda"
using Conda
Conda.list()
```
> **My Conda Environment for Pyplot**
>
> ```julia
> julia> Conda.list()
> [ Info: Running `conda list` in root environment
> # packages in environment at /Users/kittisopikulm/.julia/conda/3:
> #
> # Name Version Build Channel
> brotli 1.0.9 h1a8c8d9_8 conda-forge
> brotli-bin 1.0.9 h1a8c8d9_8 conda-forge
> brotlipy 0.7.0 py310h8e9501a_1005 conda-forge
> bzip2 1.0.8 h3422bc3_4 conda-forge
> ca-certificates 2022.9.24 h4653dfc_0 conda-forge
> certifi 2022.9.24 pyhd8ed1ab_0 conda-forge
> cffi 1.15.1 py310h2399d43_2 conda-forge
> charset-normalizer 2.1.1 pyhd8ed1ab_0 conda-forge
> colorama 0.4.6 pyhd8ed1ab_0 conda-forge
> conda 22.9.0 py310hbe9552e_2 conda-forge
> conda-package-handling 1.9.0 py310h8e9501a_1 conda-forge
> contourpy 1.0.6 py310h2887b22_0 conda-forge
> cryptography 38.0.2 py310hfc83b78_2 conda-forge
> cycler 0.11.0 pyhd8ed1ab_0 conda-forge
> fonttools 4.38.0 py310h8e9501a_1 conda-forge
> freetype 2.12.1 hd633e50_0 conda-forge
> idna 3.4 pyhd8ed1ab_0 conda-forge
> jpeg 9e he4db4b2_2 conda-forge
> kiwisolver 1.4.4 py310h2887b22_1 conda-forge
> lcms2 2.14 h8193b64_0 conda-forge
> lerc 4.0.0 h9a09cb3_0 conda-forge
> libblas 3.9.0 16_osxarm64_openblas conda-forge
> libbrotlicommon 1.0.9 h1a8c8d9_8 conda-forge
> libbrotlidec 1.0.9 h1a8c8d9_8 conda-forge
> libbrotlienc 1.0.9 h1a8c8d9_8 conda-forge
> libcblas 3.9.0 16_osxarm64_openblas conda-forge
> libcxx 14.0.6 h2692d47_0 conda-forge
> libdeflate 1.14 h1a8c8d9_0 conda-forge
> libffi 3.4.2 h3422bc3_5 conda-forge
> libgfortran 5.0.0 11_3_0_hd922786_26 conda-forge
> libgfortran5 11.3.0 hdaf2cc0_26 conda-forge
> liblapack 3.9.0 16_osxarm64_openblas conda-forge
> libopenblas 0.3.21 openmp_hc731615_3 conda-forge
> libpng 1.6.38 h76d750c_0 conda-forge
> libsqlite 3.39.4 h76d750c_0 conda-forge
> libtiff 4.4.0 hfa0b094_4 conda-forge
> libwebp-base 1.2.4 h57fd34a_0 conda-forge
> libxcb 1.13 h9b22ae9_1004 conda-forge
> libzlib 1.2.13 h03a7124_4 conda-forge
> llvm-openmp 15.0.4 h7cfbb63_0 conda-forge
> matplotlib 3.6.2 py310hb6292c7_0 conda-forge
> matplotlib-base 3.6.2 py310h78c5c2f_0 conda-forge
> munkres 1.1.4 pyh9f0ad1d_0 conda-forge
> ncurses 6.3 h07bb92c_1 conda-forge
> numpy 1.23.4 py310h5d7c261_1 conda-forge
> openjpeg 2.5.0 h5d4e404_1 conda-forge
> openssl 3.0.7 h03a7124_0 conda-forge
> packaging 21.3 pyhd8ed1ab_0 conda-forge
> pillow 9.2.0 py310h9337a76_3 conda-forge
> pip 22.3 pyhd8ed1ab_0 conda-forge
> pthread-stubs 0.4 h27ca646_1001 conda-forge
> pycosat 0.6.4 py310h8e9501a_1 conda-forge
> pycparser 2.21 pyhd8ed1ab_0 conda-forge
> pyopenssl 22.1.0 pyhd8ed1ab_0 conda-forge
> pyparsing 3.0.9 pyhd8ed1ab_0 conda-forge
> pysocks 1.7.1 pyha2e5f31_6 conda-forge
> python 3.10.6 hae75cb6_0_cpython conda-forge
> python-dateutil 2.8.2 pyhd8ed1ab_0 conda-forge
> python_abi 3.10 2_cp310 conda-forge
> readline 8.1.2 h46ed386_0 conda-forge
> requests 2.28.1 pyhd8ed1ab_1 conda-forge
> ruamel_yaml 0.15.80 py310h8e9501a_1008 conda-forge
> setuptools 65.5.0 pyhd8ed1ab_0 conda-forge
> six 1.16.0 pyh6c4a22f_0 conda-forge
> tk 8.6.12 he1e0b03_0 conda-forge
> toolz 0.12.0 pyhd8ed1ab_0 conda-forge
> tornado 6.2 py310h8e9501a_1 conda-forge
> tqdm 4.64.1 pyhd8ed1ab_0 conda-forge
> tzdata 2022e h191b570_0 conda-forge
> unicodedata2 15.0.0 py310h8e9501a_0 conda-forge
> urllib3 1.26.11 pyhd8ed1ab_0 conda-forge
> wheel 0.37.1 pyhd8ed1ab_0 conda-forge
> xorg-libxau 1.0.9 h27ca646_0 conda-forge
> xorg-libxdmcp 1.1.3 h27ca646_0 conda-forge
> xz 5.2.6 h57fd34a_0 conda-forge
> yaml 0.2.5 h3422bc3_2 conda-forge
> zstd 1.5.2 h8128057_4 conda-forge
>
> ```
---
### Author:  [@Schneeschaufel](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Schneeschaufel)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2022, 10:36pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/trouble-using-plots-on-macos/90182/9 "2022-11-12T22:36:04Z")
How do you
(Just for info: I have got a conda in my home directory ~/ but also a conda in my julia directory. I cannot remember why I also installed conda under the Julia directory. Also if I use matplotlib directly it would work, e.g.
using PyCall
@pyimport matplotlib.pyplot as plt
@pyimport numpy as np
x = np.linspace(0, 2_np.pi, 1000)
y = np.sin(3_x + 4 \* np.cos(2\*x))
plt.plot(x, y, color=“red”, linewidth=2.0, linestyle=“–”)
plt.title(“The big reset”)
#plt.show()
plt.savefig(“./test.png”)
the invocation of pyplot() lobs a grenade though).
julia\> using Pkg
julia\> pkg"add Conda"
Updating registry at `~/.julia/registries/General.toml`
Resolving package versions…
Updating `~/.julia/environments/v1.8/Project.toml`
[8f4d0f93] + Conda v1.7.0
No Changes to `~/.julia/environments/v1.8/Manifest.toml`
julia\> using Conda
julia\> Conda.list()
[ Info: Running `conda list` in root environment
# packages in environment at /Users/jack-reacher/.julia/conda/3:
#
# Name Version Build Channel
blosc 1.21.0 he49afe7\_0 conda-forge
boost-cpp 1.74.0 hff03dee\_4 conda-forge
brotli 1.0.9 h0d85af4\_6 conda-forge
brotli-bin 1.0.9 h0d85af4\_6 conda-forge
brotlipy 0.7.0 py39h89e85a6\_1003 conda-forge
bzip2 1.0.8 h0d85af4\_4 conda-forge
c-ares 1.18.1 h0d85af4\_0 conda-forge
ca-certificates 2022.9.24 h033912b\_0 conda-forge
cairo 1.16.0 he43a7df\_1008 conda-forge
certifi 2022.9.24 pyhd8ed1ab\_0 conda-forge
cffi 1.15.0 py39he338e87\_0 conda-forge
cfitsio 4.0.0 hb20e66c\_0 conda-forge
charset-normalizer 2.0.9 pyhd8ed1ab\_0 conda-forge
colorama 0.4.4 pyh9f0ad1d\_0 conda-forge
conda 22.9.0 py39h6e9494a\_2 conda-forge
conda-package-handling 1.7.3 py39h89e85a6\_1 conda-forge
cryptography 36.0.0 py39h209aa08\_0 conda-forge
curl 7.81.0 hf45b732\_0 conda-forge
cycler 0.11.0 pyhd8ed1ab\_0 conda-forge
dbus 1.13.6 h811a1a6\_3 conda-forge
dcw-gmt 2.0.2 h694c41f\_0 conda-forge
expat 2.4.2 he49afe7\_0 conda-forge
fftw 3.3.10 nompi\_hf082fe4\_102 conda-forge
font-ttf-dejavu-sans-mono 2.37 hab24e00\_0 conda-forge
font-ttf-inconsolata 3.000 h77eed37\_0 conda-forge
font-ttf-source-code-pro 2.038 h77eed37\_0 conda-forge
font-ttf-ubuntu 0.83 hab24e00\_0 conda-forge
fontconfig 2.13.1 h10f422b\_1005 conda-forge
fonts-conda-ecosystem 1 0 conda-forge
fonts-conda-forge 1 0 conda-forge
fonttools 4.28.5 py39h89e85a6\_0 conda-forge
freetype 2.10.4 h4cff582\_1 conda-forge
freexl 1.0.6 h0d85af4\_0 conda-forge
gdal 3.4.0 py39h9e6e899\_11 conda-forge
geos 3.10.1 he49afe7\_1 conda-forge
geotiff 1.7.0 h9e3163f\_5 conda-forge
gettext 0.19.8.1 hd1a6beb\_1008 conda-forge
ghostscript 9.54.0 he49afe7\_1 conda-forge
giflib 5.2.1 hbcb3906\_2 conda-forge
gmt 6.3.0 h355c565\_2 conda-forge
gshhg-gmt 2.3.7 h694c41f\_1003 conda-forge
hdf4 4.2.15 hefd3b78\_3 conda-forge
hdf5 1.12.1 nompi\_h2f0ef1a\_103 conda-forge
icu 68.2 he49afe7\_0 conda-forge
idna 3.1 pyhd3deb0d\_0 conda-forge
jbig 2.1 h0d85af4\_2003 conda-forge
jpeg 9d hbcb3906\_0 conda-forge
json-c 0.15 hcb556a6\_0 conda-forge
kealib 1.4.14 ha22a8b1\_3 conda-forge
kiwisolver 1.3.2 py39hf018cea\_1 conda-forge
krb5 1.19.2 hcfbf3a7\_3 conda-forge
lcms2 2.12 h577c468\_0 conda-forge
lerc 3.0 he49afe7\_0 conda-forge
libblas 3.9.0 12\_osx64\_openblas conda-forge
libbrotlicommon 1.0.9 h0d85af4\_6 conda-forge
libbrotlidec 1.0.9 h0d85af4\_6 conda-forge
libbrotlienc 1.0.9 h0d85af4\_6 conda-forge
libcblas 3.9.0 12\_osx64\_openblas conda-forge
libclang 11.1.0 default\_he082bbe\_1 conda-forge
libcurl 7.81.0 hf45b732\_0 conda-forge
libcxx 12.0.1 habf9029\_1 conda-forge
libdap4 3.20.6 h3e144a0\_2 conda-forge
libdeflate 1.8 h0d85af4\_0 conda-forge
libedit 3.1.20191231 h0678c8f\_2 conda-forge
libev 4.33 haf1e3a3\_1 conda-forge
libffi 3.4.2 h0d85af4\_5 conda-forge
libgdal 3.4.0 h97a9cf0\_11 conda-forge
libgfortran 5.0.0 9\_3\_0\_h6c81a4c\_23 conda-forge
libgfortran5 9.3.0 h6c81a4c\_23 conda-forge
libglib 2.70.2 hf1fb8c0\_1 conda-forge
libiconv 1.16 haf1e3a3\_0 conda-forge
libkml 1.3.0 h8fd9edb\_1014 conda-forge
liblapack 3.9.0 12\_osx64\_openblas conda-forge
libllvm11 11.1.0 hd011deb\_2 conda-forge
libnetcdf 4.8.1 nompi\_h6609ca0\_101 conda-forge
libnghttp2 1.43.0 h6f36284\_1 conda-forge
libopenblas 0.3.18 openmp\_h3351f45\_0 conda-forge
libpng 1.6.37 h7cec526\_2 conda-forge
libpq 13.5 hea3049e\_1 conda-forge
librttopo 1.1.0 h0d74fd6\_8 conda-forge
libspatialite 5.0.1 h24415ee\_12 conda-forge
libssh2 1.10.0 h52ee1ee\_2 conda-forge
libtiff 4.3.0 hd146c10\_2 conda-forge
libwebp-base 1.2.1 h0d85af4\_0 conda-forge
libxml2 2.9.12 h93ec3fd\_0 conda-forge
libzip 1.8.0 h8b0c345\_1 conda-forge
libzlib 1.2.11 h9173be1\_1013 conda-forge
llvm-openmp 12.0.1 hda6cdc1\_1 conda-forge
lz4-c 1.9.3 he49afe7\_1 conda-forge
matplotlib 3.5.1 py39h6e9494a\_0 conda-forge
matplotlib-base 3.5.1 py39hb07454d\_0 conda-forge
munkres 1.1.4 pyh9f0ad1d\_0 conda-forge
mysql-common 8.0.27 h694c41f\_3 conda-forge
mysql-libs 8.0.27 h115446f\_3 conda-forge
ncurses 6.2 h2e338ed\_4 conda-forge
nspr 4.32 hcd9eead\_1 conda-forge
nss 3.73 h31e2bf1\_0 conda-forge
numpy 1.22.3 py39h214027c\_2 conda-forge
olefile 0.46 pyh9f0ad1d\_1 conda-forge
openjpeg 2.4.0 h6e7aa92\_1 conda-forge
openssl 1.1.1s hfd90126\_0 conda-forge
packaging 21.3 pyhd8ed1ab\_0 conda-forge
pcre 8.45 he49afe7\_0 conda-forge
pillow 8.4.0 py39he9bb72f\_0 conda-forge
pip 21.3.1 pyhd8ed1ab\_0 conda-forge
pixman 0.40.0 hbcb3906\_0 conda-forge
poppler 21.11.0 h9573804\_0 conda-forge
poppler-data 0.4.11 hd8ed1ab\_0 conda-forge
postgresql 13.5 he8fe76e\_1 conda-forge
proj 8.2.0 h1512c50\_0 conda-forge
pycosat 0.6.3 py39h89e85a6\_1009 conda-forge
pycparser 2.21 pyhd8ed1ab\_0 conda-forge
pyopenssl 21.0.0 pyhd8ed1ab\_0 conda-forge
pyparsing 3.0.6 pyhd8ed1ab\_0 conda-forge
pyqt 5.12.3 py39h6e9494a\_8 conda-forge
pyqt-impl 5.12.3 py39he44290a\_8 conda-forge
pyqt5-sip 4.19.18 py39h15fb055\_8 conda-forge
pyqtchart 5.12 py39he44290a\_8 conda-forge
pyqtwebengine 5.12.1 py39he44290a\_8 conda-forge
pysocks 1.7.1 py39h6e9494a\_4 conda-forge
python 3.9.7 h1248fe1\_3\_cpython conda-forge
python-dateutil 2.8.2 pyhd8ed1ab\_0 conda-forge
python\_abi 3.9 2\_cp39 conda-forge
qt 5.12.9 h126340a\_4 conda-forge
readline 8.1 h05e3726\_0 conda-forge
requests 2.26.0 pyhd8ed1ab\_1 conda-forge
ruamel\_yaml 0.15.80 py39h89e85a6\_1006 conda-forge
setuptools 59.4.0 py39h6e9494a\_0 conda-forge
six 1.16.0 pyh6c4a22f\_0 conda-forge
sqlite 3.37.0 h23a322b\_0 conda-forge
tiledb 2.5.3 hca4410a\_0 conda-forge
tk 8.6.11 h5dbffcc\_1 conda-forge
toolz 0.12.0 pyhd8ed1ab\_0 conda-forge
tornado 6.1 py39h89e85a6\_2 conda-forge
tqdm 4.62.3 pyhd8ed1ab\_0 conda-forge
tzcode 2021e h0d85af4\_0 conda-forge
tzdata 2021e he74cb21\_0 conda-forge
urllib3 1.26.7 pyhd8ed1ab\_0 conda-forge
wheel 0.37.0 pyhd8ed1ab\_1 conda-forge
xerces-c 3.2.3 h379762d\_3 conda-forge
xz 5.2.5 haf1e3a3\_1 conda-forge
yaml 0.2.5 haf1e3a3\_0 conda-forge
zlib 1.2.11 h9173be1\_1013 conda-forge
zstd 1.5.1 h582d3a0\_0 conda-forge
---
### Author:  [@mkitti](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/mkitti)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2022, 10:45pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/trouble-using-plots-on-macos/90182/10 "2022-11-12T22:45:48Z")
One obvious difference in the conda environment is that I do not have pyqt installed at all.
The `.julia/conda` environment is installed by default by PyCall.jl and Conda.jl.
You can configure PyCall to use another Conda environment:
```julia
ENV["PYTHON"] = "/path/to/python_in_conda_environment"
using Pkg
Pkg.build("PyCall")
```
See [GitHub - JuliaPy/PyCall.jl: Package to call Python functions from the Julia language](https://github.com/JuliaPy/PyCall.jl#specifying-the-python-version)
> [@Schneeschaufel](#):
>
> How do you
How do I?
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### Author:  [@Schneeschaufel](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Schneeschaufel)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2022, 9:35am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/trouble-using-plots-on-macos/90182/11 "2022-11-13T09:35:08Z")
I actually like that you can install packages on the fly from within a Julia session in a bash terminal as you go along (I do not use Jupyter; never have; never will; also true for Python; it is Emacs+terminal). I really like that and find it pretty cool.
But plotting is just broken. I know it is not Julia’s fault but it is simply broken.
It should not take me days or months to install a working plotting library.
If I do what you said needs doing:
**julia\>** ENV[“PYTHON”] = “/opt/anaconda3/bin/python3.8”
“/opt/anaconda3/bin/python3.8”
**julia\>** using Pkg
**julia\>** Pkg.build(“PyCall”)
**Building** Conda ─→ `~/.julia/scratchspaces/44cfe95a-1eb2-52ea-b672-e2afdf69b78f/6e47d11ea2776bc5627421d59cdcc1296c058071/build.log`
**Building** PyCall → `~/.julia/scratchspaces/44cfe95a-1eb2-52ea-b672-e2afdf69b78f/53b8b07b721b77144a0fbbbc2675222ebf40a02d/build.log`
**Precompiling** project…
2 dependencies successfully precompiled in 8 seconds. 148 already precompiled.
**julia\>** using Plots
**julia\>** pyplot()
Intel MKL FATAL ERROR: Cannot load libmkl\_intel\_thread.1.dylib.
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### Author:  [@mkitti](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/mkitti)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2022, 5:34pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/trouble-using-plots-on-macos/90182/12 "2022-11-13T17:34:57Z")
Installing Plots with GR worked with a new install and a clean environment that I did to evaluate what may be happening in your case in the past 24 hours. Both worked seamlessly for me on Ubuntu 22.04 and macOS so it is hard to say what is broken without further information from you about your system.
I recently helped to fix a Plots/GR install in two other instances in 24 hours. Here is one on Discourse:
> [@Graph compile issue](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/graph-compile-issue/90173/3):
>
> Also try: The first troubleshooting step is to force GR to rebuild. This should reset GR to using GR\_jll. ENV["JULIA\_DEBUG"] = "GR" # Turn on debug statements for the GR package ENV["GRDIR"] = "" # Force GR to rebuild from default settings import Pkg; Pkg.build("GR") using GR Check the generated build.log for errors. The second step is try binaries from GR tarballs which are provided directly by the GR developers as self-contained distributions for selected platforms - independent of …
It is not clear me to if you tried using GR on your Mac. The other thing we have not tried yet is using the upstream binaries from [https://gr-framework.org/](https://gr-framework.org/) . In contrast to the Julia packaging approach which tried to be self-contained, those binary packages are linked against specific system binaries:
[C library GR — GR Framework 0.72.10 documentation](https://gr-framework.org/c.html)
After untaring the tarball, you can try
```julia
using GR # repeat this until it loads
GR.GRPreferences.use_system_binary("/path/to/gr"; force = true)
```
One thing I am working thriugh at the moment is decreasing GR.jl’s dependence on environment variables. It could be that your PATH environment variable is setup that it tries load some outside library unknown to us before it can load the binaries that we provide.
What is the output of `ENV["PATH"]` before and after you load Plots?
Currently you are trying to combine Julia with an Anaconda install linked to the Intel MKL library. This is proprietary software so it is difficult for us to support here. We do have a way to use the MKL in Julia, but the effort is likely overkill if all you would like to do is plot.
If you want to try a conda based solution, I have some involvement with conda-forge so it would be easier to support a conda environment exclusively using that conda-forge channel. Heck you could even install Julia via conda-forge on macOS at the moment. My recommendation these days is to use mambaforge rather than Anaconda these days.
> **[GitHub - conda-forge/miniforge: A conda-forge distribution.](https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge)**
>
> A conda-forge distribution. Contribute to conda-forge/miniforge development by creating an account on GitHub.
From there you could setup an environment using
```julia
mamba install -c conda-forge -n python_julia numpy pyjulia julia
mamba activate python_julia
```
Swapping conda for mamba should work as well, but mamba is a lot faster in my experience.
We’re superficially surveying a bunch of different approaches. It might be better to choose the on me that is furthest along and drill into it.
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### Author:  [@Schneeschaufel](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Schneeschaufel)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2022, 5:53pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/trouble-using-plots-on-macos/90182/13 "2022-11-13T17:53:51Z")
Thanks for your effort helping here.
But this is not a solution.
I want pyplot().
Could be wrong though but your GR is the GR backend and not pyplot?
Or is poyplot() included in your GR package?
By the way I am not trying to use anaconda from my home directory with Julia. You said I should give it a go and to link to the system wide anaconda and not the one that sits under the Julia directory.
GR as far as I understand works on my Ventura (you said to me GR is the default backend if nothing else gets in the way). I can do:
using Plots
plot(rand(23))
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### Author:  [@mkitti](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/mkitti)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2022, 6:09pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/trouble-using-plots-on-macos/90182/14 "2022-11-13T18:09:24Z")
# Anaconda, Intel MKL
If you really want to use the Anaconda base environment, which is unusual to use directly, you can try first switching Julia to a MKL linear algebra backend.
> **[GitHub - JuliaLinearAlgebra/MKL.jl: Intel MKL linear algebra backend for Julia](https://github.com/JuliaLinearAlgebra/MKL.jl)**
>
> Intel MKL linear algebra backend for Julia
I highly recommend creating a conda environment for this purpose.
Next we may then need to try to override the Julia binary artifact with the system artifact:
> **[Overriding artifact locations - 9. Artifacts · Pkg.jl](https://pkgdocs.julialang.org/v1/artifacts/#Overriding-artifact-locations)**
>
> Documentation for Pkg.jl.
Since this a proprietary, I recommend requesting support from the proprietary vendor, Anaconda Inc for details:
> **[Professional Services | Anaconda](https://www.anaconda.com/professional-services)**
>
> Solve data science and machine learning challenges alongside Anaconda's consultants, developers, and engineers. See what the professional services team can do for you.
# PythonCall
Have you tried to install PythonPlot.jl as I recommended above? It’s not clear to me if you tried this or the original PyPlots.jl package.
That uses [GitHub - JuliaPy/PythonCall.jl: Python and Julia in harmony.](https://github.com/cjdoris/PythonCall.jl) which is a separate Python interface from PyCall.jl:
> **[Home · PythonCall & JuliaCall](https://cjdoris.github.io/PythonCall.jl/stable/)**
>
> Documentation for PythonCall & JuliaCall.
Do you really need Plots.jl to work with the `pyplots()` backend or could PythonPlot.jl work by itself? This would simpify the situation.
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### Author:  [@Schneeschaufel](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Schneeschaufel)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2022, 7:19pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/trouble-using-plots-on-macos/90182/15 "2022-11-13T19:19:33Z")
I never said I want to use anaconda base environment. If you mean by anaconda base the system wide anaconda in my home directory. You said to me I could try to use the system wide anaconda.
PyPlot may work:
using PyPlot
**julia\>** x = range(0; stop=2\*pi, length=1000)
**Julia\>** y = sin.(3 \* x + 4 \* cos.(2 \* x))
**julia\>** plot(x, y, color=“red”, linewidth=2.0, linestyle=“–”)
qt.qpa.drawing: Layer-backing can not be explicitly controlled on 10.14 when built against the 10.14 SDK
1-element Vector{PyCall.PyObject}:
PyObject \
Edit: It is probably a better idea to use PyPlot directly and not via using Plots. Personally I think it is just crazy to have so many plotting packages in container Plots which cause more problems than they solve. Not clear to me why plotting packages are not dealt with individually. A lot easier to follow for everyone.
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### Author:  [@mkitti](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/mkitti)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2022, 8:02pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/trouble-using-plots-on-macos/90182/16 "2022-11-13T20:02:15Z")
> [@Schneeschaufel](#):
>
> You said to me I could try to use the system wide anaconda.
No. I never mentioned “anaconda”. I only referred to “conda”, the open source source package manager. I do not touch Anaconda, the commercial distribution, these days because I usually cannot fix it even if I know how. There are too many proprietary components, and I don’t have a clear way of contributing to Anaconda even if I wanted that. If you’re using `/opt/anaconda3/bin/python3.8` then you are using a proprietary build that is problematic for me to engage with due to licensing and the terms of service. There are people paid to support that product, so I steer clear. If you want to work with a proprietary product, seek proprietary, not community support.
If you start `python` and it says something like `Python 3.10.5 | packaged by conda-forge` then that works for me. For me, that is usually located at an address such as `/mambaforge/envs/py310/bin/python`.
> [@Schneeschaufel](#):
>
> Edit: It is probably a better idea to use PyPlot directly and not via using Plots. Personally I think it is just crazy to have so many plotting packages in container Plots which cause more problems than they solve. Not clear to me why plotting packages are not dealt with individually. A lot easier to follow for everyone.
I mostly agree with you. As you see we provide many options. No one is making you use Plots.jl nor recommending it is the best solution for all cases. It’s objective is to provide a unified meta-interface over many backends. If that’s not what you want, then you probably should just one of the plotting packages directly.
You can use PyPlot.jl, PythonPlot.jl, Makie.jl, Gadfly.jl, Gaston.jl, Gnuplot.jl, UnicodePlots.jl, Plotly.jl, PlotlyJS.jl, GR.jl, or Dash.jl, etc. Some of these even have swappable backends themselves.
Regarding PyPlot.jl and PythonPlot.jl, I might lean towards PythonPlot.jl for a new project. The underlying PythonCall.jl / juliacall foundation is relatively stronger than than the older PyCall.jl / pyjulia foundation. I’ve started to work on pyjulia, but there is a lot of catching up to do.
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### Author:  [@Schneeschaufel](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Schneeschaufel)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2022, 8:30pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/trouble-using-plots-on-macos/90182/17 "2022-11-13T20:30:30Z")
Hi Mark
I need to emphasise it again: I do not use /opt/anaconda3/bin/python3.8 in Julia.
I cannot remember if you said I should try to link it to my system wide conda or you just meant system wide Python install on in order to rule out that the Julia local Python is not at fault.
In any case the Julia Python is:
/Users/angel/.julia/conda/3/bin/python3.9
Personally I think this is the best solution for Julia. To separate the system wide Python from the Python Julia understands. This is what anaconda does with virtual environments: it installs a Python copy and other Python packages into that virtual environment to keep it clean from system wide Python versions and interdependencies. This is probably the reason why for most parts anaconda and virtual environments just work.
But it is still not clear why on my Ventura macOS using Plots; pyplot() wouldn’t work. But using PyPlots directly in Julia will work.
I have wondered if I should completely move away from pyplot in python and do the plotting outside of python with gnuplot. Python would just produce the input files to gnuplot. Having those plotting functionality in a programming language like Python leads to awful terrible messy bad code. I always end up doing loads of data analysis inside my plotting routines which is just not good practise.
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### Author:  [@mkitti](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/mkitti)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2022, 9:00pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/trouble-using-plots-on-macos/90182/18 "2022-11-13T21:00:23Z")
There are two different interfaces to GNUPlot:
> **[GitHub - mbaz/Gaston.jl: A julia front-end for gnuplot.](https://github.com/mbaz/Gaston.jl)**
>
> A julia front-end for gnuplot. Contribute to mbaz/Gaston.jl development by creating an account on GitHub.
> **[GitHub - gcalderone/Gnuplot.jl: Julia interface to gnuplot](https://github.com/gcalderone/Gnuplot.jl)**
>
> Julia interface to gnuplot. Contribute to gcalderone/Gnuplot.jl development by creating an account on GitHub.
I’m not sure what is going on with PyPlot on your Mac. If you want to start fresh, you can try these steps:
1. Move `.julia/conda` to a backup location
2. Remove the file at `Pkg.dir("PyCall","deps","PYTHON")`
3. Set the environment variable `PYTHON` to `""`.
4. Do a `Pkg.build()` or `Pkg.build("PyCall")`.
These instructions are derived from [GitHub - JuliaPy/PyCall.jl: Package to call Python functions from the Julia language](https://github.com/JuliaPy/PyCall.jl)
If you want to use PythonPlot.jl / PythonCall.jl see this documentation:
[https://cjdoris.github.io/PythonCall.jl/stable/](https://cjdoris.github.io/PythonCall.jl/stable/)
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### Author:  [@mkitti](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/mkitti)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2022, 9:15pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/trouble-using-plots-on-macos/90182/19 "2022-11-13T21:15:49Z")
> [@Schneeschaufel](#):
>
> But it is still not clear why on my Ventura macOS using Plots; pyplot() wouldn’t work. But using PyPlots directly in Julia will work.
Also, I mentioned one specific issue previously. Plots.jl loads GR.jl by default even if you are using the `pyplot()` backend. GR.jl loads GR\_jll.jl which in turns loads QT libraries.
`matplotlib` is likely also loading QT libraries, and it is quite possible that the QT libraries loaded by GR\_jll are not the same ones loaded by `matplotlib`.
Prior to GR 0.68, I had made a change such that GR\_jll is loaded lazily. However to accelerating precompilation of Plots.jl it was changed such that GR\_jll was loaded eagerly, meaning you did not have a chance to not loading GR\_jll at all.
As of Julia 1.6, we now have a better way of doing this via compile-time preferences via Preferences.jl. I’ve filed an issue on this yesterday:
>
>
> Loading GR by default can cause issues since it loads so many other packages, no…tably JLLs.
>
> For example, loading QT via GR can result in the PyPlot backend not working:
> https://discourse.julialang.org/t/trouble-using-plots-on-linux/90061/32?u=mkitti
>
> To simplify this, let's provide a Preferences.jl mechanism so that users can load their preferred backend by default. This will also help to minimize issues and accelerate plots by not loading unnecessary packages that we are not using.
Essentially, via a compile-time preference you could change the default backend. This would allow you to configure a situation in which `GR_jll` is never loaded at all and thus the QT libraries that it loads have no chance of interfering with the QT libraries that matplotlib loads.