# The State of the Julia Ecosystem

**URL:** <https://discourse.julialang.org/t/the-state-of-the-julia-ecosystem/18650>\
**Category:** Community\
**Created:** [December 14, 2018, 9:18am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/the-state-of-the-julia-ecosystem/18650 "2018-12-14T09:18:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Liso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/898d66/32.png) [@Liso](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Liso)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2018, 11:05am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/the-state-of-the-julia-ecosystem/18650/86 "2018-12-21T11:05:06Z")

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> [@iamed2](#):
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> I wrote a longer post but decided against posting it as I wasn’t sure how harsh it would sound.

If you would not be at hominem, trying to exhaust oponent with “clever” questions or attacking his/her language, it could be useful catharsis. (I don’t say it could not bring pain)

I am curious what is your position! 🙂

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Reading this discourse we could find ideas useful for thinking about Julia ecosystem.

[Evolution on isolated island](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/what-do-you-think-about-the-programming-language-nim/18369/24) and [brexit](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/the-state-of-the-julia-ecosystem/18650/64) have something in common with making language **independent** from other languages (aka 2nd language “problem”).

If you are not big mass land empire which could force your laws to others (and it is not current position) - means you are not able to make competitive ecosystem then you could end up with trying to glue/use/(make agreement with) [3rd](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/state-of-plotting-packages-as-of-2018-12-15/18698/12) and [4th](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/what-software-packages-databases-to-work-with-100gb-datasets/18729/5) language to get workable solution.

It is clear that some naive expectation will make some adopters/voters/evaluators frustrated. Others will be satisfied (some no matter what) and some could wait forever for promised bright future.

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