Some people have a perennial problem with unicode in source files, and would prefer to simply never deal with that. We have two interesting precedents inside the julia language to deal with that: String literals permit unicode escapes, like "\u00b5 is a greek letter". In other words, unicode hate…

A solution could be essentially, a “beautifier” option. The beautifier/formatter would replace unicode with equivalents (such as lvar"rho" suggestion above), but perhaps integrated into main julialang. Additionally, the REPL should have a mode which automatically replaces unicodes with such equivale…

[image] stevengj: I don’t recall any feature of the base language or standard libraries that requires non-ASCII symbols JAX vs Julia (vs PyTorch) · Patrick Kidger says Many Julia APIs look like Optimiser(η=...) rather than Optimiser(learning_rate=...). This is a pretty unreadable convention…

This thread is getting dangerously close to name-calling. It’s hardly productive to have a shouting match between unicode haters and unicode enthusiasts. It’s not like anybody is going to convince the other. Julia’s unicode support is a fact of life. If you don’t like unicode, don’t use it in your …

[image] jar1: JAX vs Julia (vs PyTorch) · Patrick Kidger says Many Julia APIs look like Optimiser(η=...) rather than Optimiser(learning_rate=...). This is a pretty unreadable convention. I’m pretty sure that Patrick Kidger is just plain wrong in that assertion. I’m not a Flux user, but as …

That’s neither Base Julia nor a standard library. One of the most prominent package style guides, SciMLStyle , says this: Unicode is fine within code where it increases legibility, but in no case should Unicode be used in public APIs. This is to allow support for terminals which cannot use Unicode…

[image] jkopper: If I can’t ssh into a terminal and edit code with whatever editor happens to be installed, then your language isn’t useful to me. With tramp in Emacs , I can edit any file on a server I have SSH access to using the editor on my local machine. I don’t think that non-ASCII char…

This is a case where Julia has built-in functions to help out. Someone posted this already, but its worth reiterating help?>α "α" can be typed by \alpha<tab> so the “which theta is it mystery?” is readily solveable by copy/pasting into the REPL. I will say though that I always forget this, so a PR…

[image] mihalybaci: VS Code with the JuliaMono font doesn’t display \:spagetti: properly Fear not, Iosevka does :wink: Along with :biking_man: (\:bicyclist:). Which makes sense on so many levels: if you eat a lot of spaghetti you need to exercise.

Hey everyone, we’ve had this rodeo before . Unicode isn’t going anywhere, neither in the world at large nor in Julia nor in any other modern language. The topic at hand here is if adding an ASCII-equivalent syntax to enter unicode identifiers (as is possible in Javascript) would actually help allev…

[image] DNF: never have I been forced to use it. What APIs are forcing this on the user? I only have one example and it’s only partial, but notice that n-ary function composition is only available via ∘ (\circ): julia> methods(ComposedFunction) # 1 method for type constructor: [1] ComposedF…

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Syntax: Escape hatch for unicode haters

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