# Suggestion: use PEP-like process for changes

**URL:** <https://discourse.julialang.org/t/suggestion-use-pep-like-process-for-changes/63494>\
**Category:** Internals & Design\
**Tags:** suggestions\
**Created:** [June 23, 2021, 4:14pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/suggestion-use-pep-like-process-for-changes/63494 "2021-06-23T16:14:44Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 8:06am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/suggestion-use-pep-like-process-for-changes/63494/39 "2021-06-30T08:06:00Z")

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> [@jeff.bezanson](#):
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> If somebody puts up a good PR, I’m going to accept it whether they wrote a formal document or not.

I think the issue (heh) is more about **issues** than PRs. A PR is already very concrete code and can be discussed and experimented with.

In contrast, there are a lot of issues proposing some change to Julia without sufficient discussion of motivation, alternative implementations, how it is done in other languages. This leads to long discussions going in circles.

Julia is [mature enough at this point](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/psa-julia-is-not-at-that-stage-of-development-anymore/44872) that it would be reasonable to ask that people making proposals **without PRs** about **changing the core language** in some way invest a bit of work into at least writing it up in detail.

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