# Sorting names. Surprise
**URL:** https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sorting-names-surprise/50198
**Category:** General Usage
**Created:** [November 15, 2020, 7:20pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sorting-names-surprise/50198 "2020-11-15T19:20:16Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@joa-quim](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/joa-quim)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2020, 7:20pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sorting-names-surprise/50198/1 "2020-11-15T19:20:16Z")
What I’m I missing here?
This is wrong.
```julia
julia> sort(["Vila Flor", "Vila da Flor"])
2-element Vector{String}:
"Vila Flor"
"Vila da Flor"
```
correct output should be
```julia
"Vila da Flor"
"Vila Flor"
```
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### Author:  [@Mason](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Mason)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2020, 7:22pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sorting-names-surprise/50198/2 "2020-11-15T19:22:05Z")
What makes you say this is wrong?
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### Author:  [@simeonschaub](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/simeonschaub)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2020, 7:22pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sorting-names-surprise/50198/3 "2020-11-15T19:22:13Z")
Capitalization does matter here, since:
```julia
julia> 'F' < 'd'
true
```
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### Author:  [@Mason](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Mason)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sorting-names-surprise/50198/4 "2020-11-15T19:24:03Z")
Note, you can use the `by` keyword to give your own custom preprocessing before each argument is compared.
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### Author:  [@joa-quim](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/joa-quim)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2020, 7:29pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sorting-names-surprise/50198/5 "2020-11-15T19:29:25Z")
Thanks, that was it. Had tried with Windows name sorting that gave me what I was expecting but possibly because on Win names are case insensitive.
```julia
julia> sort(["Vila Flor", "Vila da Flor"], by=uppercase)
2-element Vector{String}:
"Vila da Flor"
"Vila Flor"
```
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### Author:  [@yha](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/yha)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2020, 7:38pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sorting-names-surprise/50198/6 "2020-11-15T19:38:02Z")
Note that simply doing converting to uppercase might possibly not sort correctly outside of ASCII (correct uppercasing is itself language-dependent). If you need proper locale-dependent sorting (“collation”), I think you can find it in the `StrICU` package.
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### Author:  [@joa-quim](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/joa-quim)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2020, 7:43pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sorting-names-surprise/50198/7 "2020-11-15T19:43:42Z")
Right, but these are Portuguese names so all _inside_ ASCII. And I checked that now the sorting does what is expected when comparing the names to those of another file that are previously sorted.
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### Author:  [@lbilli](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/lbilli)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2020, 10:09pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sorting-names-surprise/50198/8 "2020-11-15T22:09:55Z")
It might be worth keeping in mind that:
```julia
julia> sort(["a", "ã", "â", "c", "ç", "e", "ê", "o", "õ", "z"], by=uppercase)
10-element Array{String,1}:
"a"
"c"
"e"
"o"
"z"
"â"
"ã"
"ç"
"ê"
"õ"
```