# Sock Puppetry Dogpile

**URL:** <https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sock-puppetry-dogpile/56891>\
**Category:** Offtopic\
**Created:** [March 10, 2021, 3:16pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sock-puppetry-dogpile/56891 "2021-03-10T15:16:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![kristoffer.carlsson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/kristoffer.carlsson/32/22_2.png) [@kristoffer.carlsson](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/kristoffer.carlsson)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 1:40pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sock-puppetry-dogpile/56891/23 "2021-03-10T13:40:21Z")

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You said you were fine with a video call. How about you and your friend Walter just jump on a video call right now then? You are already sitting next to each other so it should be pretty easy.

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**Author:** ![SadeghPouriyan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/sadeghpouriyan/32/22293_2.png) [@SadeghPouriyan](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/SadeghPouriyan)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 1:49pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sock-puppetry-dogpile/56891/24 "2021-03-10T13:49:31Z")

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Hi.  
I’m here because my colleague, Mr.Bahrami, told me that something weird happened and Mr.Karpinski had a claim that I entered and manipulated the comments through Ms.Boncoeur account. I’m here to clear that this claim is wrong. Also, after reading all of the comments, I guess that the problem is the central lab computer that all of us are using.

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**Author:** ![SadeghPouriyan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/sadeghpouriyan/32/22293_2.png) [@SadeghPouriyan](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/SadeghPouriyan)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 1:54pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sock-puppetry-dogpile/56891/25 "2021-03-10T13:54:54Z")

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However, this is a ridiculous discussion. I haven’t been accused of sth this silly; I think my time is worth more than continuing to argue about these problems, which are happening frequently in this community!!

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**Author:** ![carstenbauer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/carstenbauer/32/4981_2.png) [@carstenbauer](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/carstenbauer)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 1:57pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sock-puppetry-dogpile/56891/26 "2021-03-10T13:57:53Z")

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> [@Julia: a post-mortem](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/julia-a-post-mortem/56809/96):
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> which are happening frequently in this community!!

> [@dariush-bahrami](#):
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> During my time as a member of this community

“You” only joined the discourse a few weeks ago but are speaking like you’ve been here for ages . 🙂

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**Author:** ![helgee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/helgee/32/2022_2.png) [@helgee](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/helgee)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 2:08pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sock-puppetry-dogpile/56891/27 "2021-03-10T14:08:28Z")

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> [@ChrisRackauckas](#):
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> 10/10 entertained.

Really? 😉 I think that this show right here jumped the shark a few seasons ago. Time to shut it down…

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**Author:** ![Henrique\_Becker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/henrique_becker/32/15443_2.png) [@Henrique\_Becker](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Henrique_Becker)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 2:14pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sock-puppetry-dogpile/56891/28 "2021-03-10T14:14:40Z")

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This discussion is really ridiculous, if they are really different people using the same lab computer (tragic how funding for science got this low) then both are affiliated within the same university/department, and the Stewards can just call the university/department to check with them.

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**Author:** ![lmiq](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/lmiq/32/18314_2.png) [@lmiq](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/lmiq)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 2:46pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sock-puppetry-dogpile/56891/29 "2021-03-10T14:46:09Z")

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> [@Henrique\_Becker](#):
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> tragic how funding for science got this low

At least they have funding to recruit some foreign students or postdocs there, like Walter and Blanche.

But what I don’t understand is why two researchers that appear to actually be doing something interesting in ML, as their paper on arxiv shows, use so much of their time with this crusade against the language. Probably doing research in Iran is not easy (it is not in Brazil, and we are still privileged), and they really have potential to do good work. I hope the best for them and that they can approach Julia with a constructive and positive view in the future.

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**Author:** ![rsrock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/rsrock/32/115_2.png) [@rsrock](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/rsrock)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 2:52pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sock-puppetry-dogpile/56891/30 "2021-03-10T14:52:56Z")

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Did anyone else happen to notice that the arXiv paper is the only paper from either of those two authors? Someone with some understanding of that topic should check it out, and see if it’s legit.

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**Author:** ![josePereiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/josepereiro/32/17322_2.png) [@josePereiro](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/josePereiro)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sock-puppetry-dogpile/56891/31 "2021-03-10T14:54:35Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/original/3X/d/8/d86e9d59a12d6ff5426865f2476f8eddfc95d005.jpeg)  
😉

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**Author:** ![lmiq](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/lmiq/32/18314_2.png) [@lmiq](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/lmiq)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sock-puppetry-dogpile/56891/32 "2021-03-10T14:54:54Z")

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> [@rsrock](#):
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> see if it’s legit.

I have no comments on the content, but it is not plagiarism as far as the software Turnitin could detect, and seem quite well written, which is not surprising because they clearly write well in English. My post above was motivated by that. Seem legit and good research. I don’t understand the motivations of what happened here.

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**Author:** ![tbeason](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/tbeason/32/15898_2.png) [@tbeason](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/tbeason)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 3:06pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sock-puppetry-dogpile/56891/33 "2021-03-10T15:06:49Z")

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Fun as its been, I think this thread has run its course.

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**Author:** ![antoine-levitt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/antoine-levitt/32/4008_2.png) [@antoine-levitt](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/antoine-levitt)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 3:06pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sock-puppetry-dogpile/56891/34 "2021-03-10T15:06:58Z")

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This “chicanery” (learnt a new word today) is obviously ridiculous and a waste of time (albeit a very entertaining one to read, and some valid facts have been discussed in this thread amidst the chaos). However I just want to caution people against piling too much on these guys, and in particular not give too many identifying details. They are eventually going to figure out that anybody can google them and find this. Once they do, they should be able to change usernames and not leave a permanent trace. That being said, please resume 🍿

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**Author:** ![SadeghPouriyan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/sadeghpouriyan/32/22293_2.png) [@SadeghPouriyan](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/SadeghPouriyan)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 3:10pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sock-puppetry-dogpile/56891/35 "2021-03-10T15:10:58Z")

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> [@Julia: a post-mortem](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/julia-a-post-mortem/56809/103):
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> I don’t understand the motivations of what happened here.

I don’t get it too!

> [@Henrique\_Becker](#):
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> tragic how funding for science got this low

If you google how much A dollar is in Iranian Rial, you understand the problem; 1 Iranian Rial equals  
0.000024 United States Dollar! One medium worker here had an income of 10 to 30 million rials in a month which is about 250 USD! How can a research lab afford to buy many computers (which are equal to billions of rials here!) for their researchers like us?  
If you read our paper, we used google colab as hardware!

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**Author:** ![SadeghPouriyan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/sadeghpouriyan/32/22293_2.png) [@SadeghPouriyan](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/SadeghPouriyan)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 3:14pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sock-puppetry-dogpile/56891/36 "2021-03-10T15:14:51Z")

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> [@lmiq](#):
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> seem quite well written, which is not surprising because they clearly write well in English.

I’m so much happy about it. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![mbauman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/mbauman/32/31082_2.png) [@mbauman](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/mbauman)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 3:16pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sock-puppetry-dogpile/56891/37 "2021-03-10T15:16:33Z")

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This isn’t a game. Sock puppets are not tolerated.

> [@Julia: a post-mortem](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/julia-a-post-mortem/56809/1):
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> a waste of time.

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**Author:** ![Keno](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/keno/32/285_2.png) [@Keno](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Keno)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 3:37pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sock-puppetry-dogpile/56891/38 "2021-03-10T15:37:45Z")

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**Author:** ![Keno](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/keno/32/285_2.png) [@Keno](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Keno)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 3:38pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sock-puppetry-dogpile/56891/39 "2021-03-10T15:38:00Z")

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**Author:** ![Keno](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/keno/32/285_2.png) [@Keno](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Keno)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 3:50pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/sock-puppetry-dogpile/56891/40 "2021-03-10T15:50:13Z")

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Alright folks. This is the split thread for the Dogpile. Also as a general reminder, however fun it may be, public dogpiling isn’t a particularly welcoming practice either, however deserved it may be. Let the moderators deal with any abuse and if you have additional information, sending it to the moderators is probably the better course of action. Let’s leave this all right here please.

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