# Smoothing spline fit through a set of (x,y) points
**URL:** https://discourse.julialang.org/t/smoothing-spline-fit-through-a-set-of-x-y-points/104873
**Category:** General Usage
**Tags:** question, splines
**Created:** [October 11, 2023, 6:21pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/smoothing-spline-fit-through-a-set-of-x-y-points/104873 "2023-10-11T18:21:13Z")
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### Author:  [@hanshinlee77](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/hanshinlee77)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2023, 6:21pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/smoothing-spline-fit-through-a-set-of-x-y-points/104873/1 "2023-10-11T18:21:13Z")
Hello, I have a set of (x,y) points (shown in the attached dpng) which I would like to create a smoothing spline through. Normally, I don’t have a problem doing a fit like this using Spline1D() from Dierckx.jl or interpolate() from BSplineKit.jl. The difficulty I have with this particular data set is that the points appear to follow an underlying curve that steers to the left near the top, making the left side of the profile concave. This seems to keep my go-to spline methods confused, returning a completely wrong fit, particularly that left side of the profile. I was wondering if there are ways to use the existing methods to do this fit or is there a Julia package that can handle this kind of fit?
I appreciate any help.
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### Author:  [@JM\_Beckers](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/JM_Beckers)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2023, 9:02pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/smoothing-spline-fit-through-a-set-of-x-y-points/104873/2 "2023-10-11T21:02:16Z")
My guess is that you have sorted the point on the x-coordinate ? If you have the points in their “natural” order, I think a parametric analysis could do the trick (fit x(s) and y(s) interdependently and then plot the result). An example where I tried to sort the points to get a “natural order” is included, but if you have their original order, the idea might work better
```julia
using DelimitedFiles
using Plots
using DIVAnd
using Statistics
xy=readdlm("xyt.txt",',')
xd=xy[:,1]
yd=xy[:,2]
# Sort the points
xscale=maximum(xd)
yscale=maximum(yd)
xd=xd./xscale
yd=yd./yscale
dist=(xd.+3).^2 +(yd.+0.15).^2
indexes=sortperm(dist)
trange=size(xy,1)
NP=10*trange
tgrid=ndgrid(range(0,stop=trange+1,length=NP+2))
mask = trues(NP+2);
mask[1]=false
mask[end]=false
pmn=ones(Float64,NP+2)
t=float.(collect(1:size(xd,1)))
xmean=mean(xd)
ymean=mean(yd)
xgrid,s=DIVAndrun(mask,(pmn,),tgrid,(t,),xd[indexes].-xmean,250.0,1.1;alpha=[0,2,1]);
ygrid,s=DIVAndrun(mask,(pmn,),tgrid,(t,),yd[indexes].-ymean,250.0,1.1;alpha=[0,2,1]);
scatter(xd,yd)
plot!(xgrid.+xmean,ygrid.+ymean)
```
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### Author:  [@rafael.guerra](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/rafael.guerra)
#### Post date: [October 12, 2023, 6:06am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/smoothing-spline-fit-through-a-set-of-x-y-points/104873/3 "2023-10-12T06:06:16Z")
Please give it a try to Dierckx’s smooth parametric splines. [See this example.](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/simple-interpolation/55320/14)
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### Author:  [@stevengj](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/stevengj)
#### Post date: [October 12, 2023, 3:01pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/smoothing-spline-fit-through-a-set-of-x-y-points/104873/4 "2023-10-12T15:01:39Z")
> [@hanshinlee77](#):
>
> Hello, I have a set of (x,y) points (shown in the attached dpng) which I would like to create a smoothing spline through.
Many of these methods (e.g. Dierckx) require you to supply a parameterization (t\_i,x\_i,y\_i) of your points. If your points are roughly “in order”, then the simplest parameterization is (i,x\_i,y\_i). This recent paper [Zhong (2022)](https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-981-99-0479-2_220) references a number of algorithms for this problem (and proposes a new algorithm), though it doesn’t provide code.
If you don’t have a parameterization, or even an ordering, it seems like a much harder problem. See [this stackoverflow question](https://stackoverflow.com/questions/994054/curve-fitting-unsorted-points-on-a-plane). There are some suggestions of using a [nearest-neighbor ordering](https://web.cse.ohio-state.edu/~dey.8/curverecon.htm). [Fang and Gossard (1995)](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0010448595907522) is an older paper addressing precisely the problem of fitting unordered & noisy points, and there are more recent papers on similar topics such as [Dinh et al (2002)](https://doi.org/10.1109/TPAMI.2002.1039207) and [Wang et al (2014)](https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cad.2014.01.003) that may be worth looking at.
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### Author:  [@dlakelan](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/dlakelan)
#### Post date: [October 12, 2023, 6:14pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/smoothing-spline-fit-through-a-set-of-x-y-points/104873/5 "2023-10-12T18:14:36Z")
Interesting problem. I’m thinking create a 2D log density function and maximize the log-likelihood of the points. Then create a spline/approxfun or similar and maximize the integral of the above log-likelihood along the contour.
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### Author:  [@hanshinlee77](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/hanshinlee77)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2023, 11:31pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/smoothing-spline-fit-through-a-set-of-x-y-points/104873/6 "2023-10-17T23:31:26Z")
Thank you all for chiming in on this problem. I ended up ditching spline fit and fitting a generalized gaussian function with a skew angle to the data points to get a reasonable fit. The plot below is upside down compared to the original plot. The fit parameters were center, width, depth, \gamma (profile shape), and a skew angle.
I originally wanted to use somewhat non-parametric approach to this fit and think that the suggestion by @JM_Beckers would work. In the past, I had a similar problem, for which I created a 2D histogram of the points and ended up tracing the peaks of that histogram (or density map) to build a 2D curve which I then spline fit. I am guessing that this might be similar to what @dlakelan suggested. Unlike the behavior of the points in the plot of the original post though, that trace did not curve back in x so a spline fit was just fine.
Since spline is a collection of basis functions, I was thinking that this is a matter of finding coefficients of those basis functions that optimally fit the given (x,y) coordinate points. I still need to review the paper suggested by @stevengj. Hopefully something is there!
Thanks all again. I will get back to this post if I have a break through!
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### Author:  [@dlakelan](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/dlakelan)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2023, 2:43pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/smoothing-spline-fit-through-a-set-of-x-y-points/104873/7 "2023-10-18T14:43:09Z")
> [@hanshinlee77](#):
>
> tracing the peaks of that histogram (or density map) to build a 2D curve which I then spline fit. I am guessing that this might be similar to what @dlakelan suggested.
That’s very similar to what I suggested, except my suggestion basically generalized that a bit.
Since your thing isn’t a function of x you’d want to use a parametric function (x(t),y(t)) each of the x(t) and y(t) functions would be their own spline… then the question is “how do you pick one”. You want it to be “near” the points… you could do something like an “orthogonal” distance but it’s not trivial to figure out which point on the curve to compare each data point to. Hence my suggestion to make a density function p(x,y) which is itself a parameterized function and chosen to maximize the likelihood of the data points then choose (x(t),y(t)) on your spline to maximize the integrated p() over the path.
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### Author:  [@hanshinlee77](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/hanshinlee77)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2023, 3:09pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/smoothing-spline-fit-through-a-set-of-x-y-points/104873/8 "2023-10-18T15:09:38Z")
Yes, it was indeed a tricky problem I encountered while thinking about this: how to measure the distance (as a merit of a fit) from a spline curve to those points. Your density function approach makes sense and is the one I will be trying. Appreciate it!