# Rename MWE to S(N)WE
**URL:** https://discourse.julialang.org/t/rename-mwe-to-s-n-we/69947
**Category:** Meta Discussion
**Tags:** joke
**Created:** [October 17, 2021, 9:15pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/rename-mwe-to-s-n-we/69947 "2021-10-17T21:15:08Z")
**Posts on this page:** 7
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### Author:  [@goerch](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/goerch)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2021, 9:15pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/rename-mwe-to-s-n-we/69947/1 "2021-10-17T21:15:08Z")
April, 1st
I’d propose to rename MWE(minimal working example) to S(N)WE(some (maybe not working) example) to simplify communication with others.
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### Author:  [@oheil](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/oheil)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2021, 7:56am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/rename-mwe-to-s-n-we/69947/2 "2021-10-18T07:56:52Z")
We get very often SNWEs and can’t help, so we ask for a MWE.
So I would reject your proposal, as renaming something with something different is not what I think would help communication.
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### Author:  [@oheil](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/oheil)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2021, 11:33am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/rename-mwe-to-s-n-we/69947/3 "2021-10-18T11:33:45Z")
Hm, sorry, did I missed the joke tag and April,1st ? I took that proposal serious, and I am not the one to reject anything here. So, if I’ve destroyed the joke, I am sorry for that ☹
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### Author:  [@jlapeyre](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/jlapeyre)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2021, 3:25pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/rename-mwe-to-s-n-we/69947/4 "2021-10-18T15:25:31Z")
Well it’s kinda a joke. I usually say something like “minimum non-working example”. A few weeks ago, I asked an intern for a “MWE”. They asked what that meant. I gave the precise definition, which is minimum non-working example. That may sound like nitpicking. But, if you say minimum working example you risk confusion… “If it were working, why would I have this question?” And then you explain.
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### Author:  [@fredrikekre](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/fredrikekre)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2021, 3:40pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/rename-mwe-to-s-n-we/69947/5 "2021-10-18T15:40:03Z")
StackOverflow defines MWE as [“minimal _workable_ example”](https://stackoverflow.com/help/minimal-reproducible-example) instead, i.e. something that helpers can work with. I quite like that over minimal working example.
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### Author:  [@CameronBieganek](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/CameronBieganek)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2021, 3:58pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/rename-mwe-to-s-n-we/69947/6 "2021-10-18T15:58:56Z")
We could avoid acronyms completely and just say “reproducible example”.
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### Author:  [@oheil](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/oheil)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2021, 4:01pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/rename-mwe-to-s-n-we/69947/7 "2021-10-18T16:01:14Z")
I understood “working” always as “working while reproducing any error in question”, so how about:
MWEWRAEIQ ? 😉
@CameronBieganek : Avoid acronyms? But… But… everybody will understand us … No no, not good…