# Poll: Do we Julians want ANOVAs?

**URL:** <https://discourse.julialang.org/t/poll-do-we-julians-want-anovas/3757>\
**Category:** Statistics\
**Created:** [May 17, 2017, 12:07am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/poll-do-we-julians-want-anovas/3757 "2017-05-17T00:07:52Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 10:27pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/poll-do-we-julians-want-anovas/3757/7 "2017-05-17T22:27:41Z")

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I would respectfully request anyone wanting to implement ANOVA to first read Bill Venables’ (of Venables and Ripley, _Modern Applied Statistics with S_ fame) famous unpublished paper [_Exegeses on Linear Models_](https://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/pub/MASS3/Exegeses.pdf).

I am probably too hard-line about always defining anova as a comparison of the fits of two nested (in the sense that one is a special case of the other) linear models but that is because I have spent so much of my life explaining why p-values from certain anova tables don’t make sense.

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