# Overuse of Deprecated? & other minor complaints
**URL:** https://discourse.julialang.org/t/overuse-of-deprecated-other-minor-complaints/4124
**Category:** New to Julia
**Created:** [June 7, 2017, 3:05am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/overuse-of-deprecated-other-minor-complaints/4124 "2017-06-07T03:05:52Z")
**Posts on this page:** 10
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### Author:  [@y4lu](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/y4lu)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 3:05am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/overuse-of-deprecated-other-minor-complaints/4124/1 "2017-06-07T03:05:52Z")
I can accept it is bound to happen a bit up until v1.0, (and possibly a bit after…?), especially still being on v0.4.3 at home, but some uses seem a bit excessive, ie
> Deprecated for(…) syntax, use for … instead
> Deprecated [1:x], use collect(1:x)
while others are a bit confusing, eg
> Deprecated min(x, y), use .min(x,y) instead (or something to that effect)
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### Author:  [@yuyichao](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/yuyichao)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 3:25am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/overuse-of-deprecated-other-minor-complaints/4124/2 "2017-06-07T03:25:59Z")
They all have their reasons. For the ones you show the new syntax isn’t really longer. (the second one is longer though `[1:x;]` should work).
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### Author:  [@y4lu](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/y4lu)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 3:38am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/overuse-of-deprecated-other-minor-complaints/4124/3 "2017-06-07T03:38:59Z")
Ah, i just read the current release is v0.5.2, these are coming from 0.6.98, so perhaps that has something to do with it…
There’s also a few probable bugs i’ve found that i thought might make a half-good carrot to dangle =) I should probably be nice and just tell though 😝
problem with .^
inconsistency with x[1, :] row vectors
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### Author:  [@ChrisRackauckas](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/ChrisRackauckas)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 3:46am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/overuse-of-deprecated-other-minor-complaints/4124/4 "2017-06-07T03:46:35Z")
> [@y4lu](#):
>
> Ah, i just read the current release is v0.5.2, these are coming from 0.6.98, so perhaps that has something to do with it…
Yes. Most packages have not updated to use the un-released version of Julia.
> [@y4lu](#):
>
> problem with .^
> inconsistency with x[1, :] row vectors
Details?
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### Author:  [@y4lu](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/y4lu)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 4:01am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/overuse-of-deprecated-other-minor-complaints/4124/5 "2017-06-07T04:01:15Z")
> datax = [data[xvec,:]; cents[countc,:]']; #transpose required here for some reason?
> function loopest(ispec) ## Errs?
> lest1 = ispec[3] .^ [1:ispec[5]-1];
> l2 = sum(lest1) + 1;
> l3 = ispec[1] \* l2;
> print(“\nLoopest $(l3)”);
> return(l3);
> end;
> function xloopest(ispec)
> k = 1;
> for(iter = 1:ispec[5]-1)
> k += ispec[3] ^ iter;
> print(“\nk (k)"); end; l3 = ispec[1] \* k; print("\nLoopest (l3)”);
> return(l3);
> end;
Second one is probably the uintrange thing
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### Author:  [@ChrisRackauckas](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/ChrisRackauckas)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 4:09am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/overuse-of-deprecated-other-minor-complaints/4124/6 "2017-06-07T04:09:22Z")
> [@y4lu](#):
>
> lest1 = ispec[3] .^ [1:ispec[5]-1]
Why are you putting that second one in an array? A `UnitRange` already acts as an array, so `lest1 = ispec[3] .^ 1:(ispec[5]-1)` is what you want?
> [@y4lu](#):
>
> datax = [data[xvec,:]; cents[countc,:]']; #transpose required here for some reason?
No?
```julia
julia> A = rand(10,10)
10×10 Array{Float64,2}:
0.91788 0.381739 0.553893 … 0.636338 0.0895755 0.0511415
0.923617 0.904216 0.514022 0.0115855 0.937157 0.10372
0.598547 0.0147912 0.763837 0.8237 0.881449 0.898905
0.0716623 0.775373 0.978852 0.222177 0.0487178 0.582407
0.27359 0.869289 0.8133 0.477661 0.979182 0.61087
0.787799 0.403802 0.821295 … 0.78357 0.931848 0.634145
0.518386 0.81494 0.691428 0.928934 0.547662 0.979005
0.906648 0.259021 0.129074 0.417072 0.367476 0.377583
0.413671 0.0479211 0.106108 0.534086 0.616797 0.484255
0.155153 0.82183 0.0888031 0.357347 0.0915388 0.0615146
julia> B = rand(10,10)
10×10 Array{Float64,2}:
0.643457 0.235792 0.69109 0.0825125 … 0.199895 0.958693 0.849335
0.751042 0.45895 0.408544 0.674955 0.810388 0.640998 0.845948
0.749009 0.827813 0.551657 0.943887 0.927011 0.832004 0.735599
0.689721 0.833688 0.089932 0.566173 0.729048 0.330048 0.253535
0.0255838 0.348061 0.401415 0.845217 0.982634 0.332575 0.89266
0.326644 0.665875 0.246223 0.846489 … 0.0763848 0.851956 0.708185
0.963863 0.878172 0.476682 0.230957 0.173688 0.690945 0.340588
0.925577 0.809223 0.198906 0.734026 0.792671 0.0290039 0.61462
0.159416 0.837881 0.565557 0.625168 0.0547231 0.610614 0.254409
0.606166 0.77376 0.562231 0.0952985 0.0330701 0.390133 0.48521
julia> [A[1,:];B[1,:]]
20-element Array{Float64,1}:
0.91788
0.381739
0.553893
0.0362226
0.472825
0.682372
0.362467
0.636338
0.0895755
0.0511415
0.643457
0.235792
0.69109
0.0825125
0.0023247
0.0595701
0.243804
0.199895
0.958693
0.849335
julia> [A[1,:];B[1,:]]
20-element Array{Float64,1}:
0.91788
0.381739
0.553893
0.0362226
0.472825
0.682372
0.362467
0.636338
0.0895755
0.0511415
0.643457
0.235792
0.69109
0.0825125
0.0023247
0.0595701
0.243804
0.199895
0.958693
0.849335
```
Please post some examples of where you’re having trouble. It’ll be easier to help you. Examples are something that can be ran.
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### Author:  [@y4lu](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/y4lu)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 4:20am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/overuse-of-deprecated-other-minor-complaints/4124/7 "2017-06-07T04:20:15Z")
Ah it wasn’t perfectly clear, but xvec is a logical vector / non-scalar
You can see that it does reshape a row vector to column, hence the 20x1 output instead of 10x2, which clashes in the example i gave - reshaping one (the vector) and not the other (generally a matrix)
both loopest and xloopest were expected to give the same results
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### Author:  [@ChrisRackauckas](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/ChrisRackauckas)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 4:45am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/overuse-of-deprecated-other-minor-complaints/4124/8 "2017-06-07T04:45:47Z")
> [@y4lu](#):
>
> Ah it wasn’t perfectly clear, but xvec is a logical vector / non-scalar
> You can see that it does reshape a row vector to column, hence the 20x1 output instead of 10x2, which clashes in the example i gave - reshaping one (the vector) and not the other (generally a matrix)
```julia
julia> A = rand(10,10)
10×10 Array{Float64,2}:
0.642217 0.0619826 0.728376 … 0.53954 0.791777 0.80603
0.0460328 0.158098 0.383776 0.22269 0.268986 0.539604
0.276851 0.980149 0.416562 0.455608 0.54859 0.837473
0.528131 0.0608396 0.319503 0.995711 0.0941816 0.082038
0.597294 0.601503 0.900173 0.749714 0.774186 0.948177
0.903385 0.646644 0.615043 … 0.169322 0.159051 0.378032
0.164304 0.0962996 0.993098 0.81683 0.198354 0.319352
0.0871752 0.951829 0.600181 0.0760895 0.655165 0.0298956
0.377345 0.694989 0.875393 0.0883299 0.468306 0.483227
0.691914 0.732316 0.879031 0.125932 0.321445 0.454192
julia> B = rand(10,10)
10×10 Array{Float64,2}:
0.621255 0.846065 0.394466 0.251896 … 0.511331 0.696065 0.534228
0.279284 0.600442 0.908453 0.0615564 0.911261 0.879275 0.97229
0.843781 0.994801 0.495884 0.50768 0.132034 0.329966 0.845142
0.146387 0.97065 0.478204 0.660121 0.538725 0.412859 0.706906
0.572393 0.781777 0.176118 0.456193 0.755145 0.600209 0.903926
0.0136114 0.610929 0.837651 0.486927 … 0.338707 0.29657 0.179064
0.434505 0.802624 0.07047 0.579943 0.832152 0.352105 0.0405817
0.622044 0.113033 0.676789 0.279958 0.997452 0.982933 0.505195
0.0832082 0.171459 0.710189 0.790077 0.393806 0.37067 0.371154
0.723232 0.398119 0.27767 0.371918 0.241921 0.289091 0.871812
julia> [A[1,:] B[1,:]]
10×2 Array{Float64,2}:
0.642217 0.621255
0.0619826 0.846065
0.728376 0.394466
0.788012 0.251896
0.735827 0.736263
0.240397 0.758429
0.67434 0.375701
0.53954 0.511331
0.791777 0.696065
0.80603 0.534228
```
? Please help me help you. Is this what you’re looking for? You’re talking in tongue instead of posting examples of what’s wrong.
> [@y4lu](#):
>
> both loopest and xloopest were expected to give the same results
```julia
function loopest(ispec)
lest1 = ispec[3] .^ (1:ispec[5]-1)
l2 = sum(lest1) + 1
l3 = ispec[1] * l2;
print("\nLoopest $(l3)");
l3
end
function xloopest(ispec)
k = 1
for iter = 1:ispec[5]-1
k += ispec[3] ^ iter;
print("\nk $(k)");
end
l3 = ispec[1] * k;
print("\nLoopest $(l3)");
l3
end
ispec = rand(5)
loopest(ispec)
xloopest(ispec)
```
give the same results
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### Author:  [@y4lu](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/y4lu)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 5:06am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/overuse-of-deprecated-other-minor-complaints/4124/9 "2017-06-07T05:06:50Z")
There’s no [example] tag though? 😥
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### Author:  [@swissr](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/swissr)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2017, 12:17pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/overuse-of-deprecated-other-minor-complaints/4124/10 "2017-06-07T12:17:13Z")
> [@y4lu](#):
>
> There’s no [example] tag though? 😥
Discourse is markdown-formatted, i.e. the _[example] tag_ is being done by enclosing the code block with 3 backticks (top one optionally followed by julia. Or by indenting the code block by 4 spaces).
Example with your ‘julia-0.4.3 image code’:
```julia
a = rand(10,10)
b = rand(10,10)
[a[1,:]’ ; b[randperm(10) .%2 .== 0, :]] # modified for v0.6
```
The preview (make sure it is not hidden!) and the ‘real view’ show:
```julia
a = rand(10,10)
b = rand(10,10)
[a[1,:]' ; b[randperm(10) .%2 .== 0, :]] # modified for v0.6
```