# Must-read for the weekend: is AI an invasive species?

**URL:** https://discourse.julialang.org/t/must-read-for-the-weekend-is-ai-an-invasive-species/99161
**Category:** Offtopic
**Created:** [May 20, 2023, 1:07pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/must-read-for-the-weekend-is-ai-an-invasive-species/99161 "2023-05-20T13:07:34Z")
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### Author: ![PetrKryslUCSD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/petrkryslucsd/32/215825_2.png) [@PetrKryslUCSD](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/PetrKryslUCSD)
#### Post date: [May 20, 2023, 1:07pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/must-read-for-the-weekend-is-ai-an-invasive-species/99161/1 "2023-05-20T13:07:34Z")

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I found this thought-provoking. There is also a link to a paper about potential elimination of  
jobs (fashion models among them, who would have thought?).

> **[Artificial intelligence holds huge promise – and peril. Let’s choose the...](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/20/artificial-intelligence-holds-huge-promise-and-peril-lets-choose-the-right-path)**
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> AI can fight the climate crisis and fuel a renewable-energy revolution. It could also kill countless jobs or incite nuclear war

Just found another article, but I’m afraid it may be behind a paywall. If you subscribe to the Economist, here it is: [Yuval Noah Harari argues that AI has hacked the operating system of human civilisation](https://www.economist.com/by-invitation/2023/04/28/yuval-noah-harari-argues-that-ai-has-hacked-the-operating-system-of-human-civilisation?utm_content=ed-picks-article-link-1&etear=nl_special_1&utm_campaign=r.coronavirus-special-edition&utm_medium=email.internal-newsletter.np&utm_source=salesforce-marketing-cloud&utm_term=5/20/2023&utm_id=1606560)

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### Author: ![oheil](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/oheil/32/220745_2.png) [@oheil](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/oheil)
#### Post date: [May 20, 2023, 1:26pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/must-read-for-the-weekend-is-ai-an-invasive-species/99161/2 "2023-05-20T13:26:13Z")

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> please note that the world was just taken over by a simple coronavirus

well… No… I do not like … green eggs and ham. I do not like them, Sam-I-Am.  
(no like)

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### Author: ![PetrKryslUCSD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/petrkryslucsd/32/215825_2.png) [@PetrKryslUCSD](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/PetrKryslUCSD)
#### Post date: [May 22, 2023, 3:19am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/must-read-for-the-weekend-is-ai-an-invasive-species/99161/3 "2023-05-22T03:19:04Z")

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More published yesterday: [https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/05/20/ai-existential-risk-debate/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/05/20/ai-existential-risk-debate/)

The ability of humans to stick their heads in the sand and pretend the danger isn’t there astounds me.

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### Author: ![kristoffer.carlsson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/kristoffer.carlsson/32/22_2.png) [@kristoffer.carlsson](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/kristoffer.carlsson)
#### Post date: [May 22, 2023, 8:17am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/must-read-for-the-weekend-is-ai-an-invasive-species/99161/4 "2023-05-22T08:17:32Z")

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> [@PetrKryslUCSD](#):
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> There is also a link to a paper about potential elimination of  
> jobs (fashion models among them, who would have thought?).

Won’t somebody please think of the fashion designers??

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### Author: ![Tamas\_Papp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/tamas_papp/32/25949_2.png) [@Tamas\_Papp](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Tamas_Papp)
#### Post date: [May 23, 2023, 8:31am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/must-read-for-the-weekend-is-ai-an-invasive-species/99161/5 "2023-05-23T08:31:12Z")

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I find it a bit silly that the two dominant narratives are

1. ChatGPT dooming us all, irrevocably;

2. ChatGPT solving all of humanity’s current problems, including global warming, world hunger, cancer, etc.

In all likelihood, neither is true. We are talking about a computer program that generates text based on a huge amount of other text (without respecting rights of the original authors). Because the ability to write coherent text is correlated with education and intelligence for humans, most people are not in a position to assess this technology based purely on its output; our judgement will be heavily biased.

This, of course, does not prevent anyone from being a pundit on the phenomenon. Quite the opposite.

Amazingly, calling it “AI” works flawlessly, for about the [5th time in history](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_winter), depending on how you count. People, especially experts, who were initially restrained enough to call it ML were quickly selected out from the discussion, because it is not sensational enough. It only took about a year for this to happen.

I admit that I do not know enough about ChatGPT to judge it in depth. That probably takes 10 years of work in a field different from mine. But as an economist, I vividly remember the rise of cryptocurrency and the associated narrative: in the beginning it was well understood that this is a pyramid scheme, but as time went on those simply pointing this out repeatedly were marginalized from the discussion, because hearing this wasn’t interesting enough for the nth time. Stakeholders eventually pressured entities that were (sensibly) holding out on cryptocurrencies to take it seriously… and then came the bad news about various players engaging in (surprise!) a pyramid scheme.

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### Author: ![PetrKryslUCSD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/petrkryslucsd/32/215825_2.png) [@PetrKryslUCSD](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/PetrKryslUCSD)
#### Post date: [May 23, 2023, 2:53pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/must-read-for-the-weekend-is-ai-an-invasive-species/99161/6 "2023-05-23T14:53:30Z")

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The possibility of the LLMs to cause significant harm is real not because they are smart, but because they are “stupid”. They can easily generate massive amounts of disinformation text, video, images, to influence people to the degree that global wars could be started etc. Humanity’s end may be closer than we think, and it will not be Terminator-style.

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### Author: ![Tamas\_Papp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/tamas_papp/32/25949_2.png) [@Tamas\_Papp](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Tamas_Papp)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2023, 12:17pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/must-read-for-the-weekend-is-ai-an-invasive-species/99161/7 "2023-05-28T12:17:33Z")

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> [@PetrKryslUCSD](#):
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> easily generate massive amounts of disinformation text,

There is already a firehose of that on social media sites. I am not saying it is harmless (quite the opposite), but even without LLMs supply is not the constraint.

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### Author: ![dlakelan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/dlakelan/32/8491_2.png) [@dlakelan](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/dlakelan)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2023, 4:58pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/must-read-for-the-weekend-is-ai-an-invasive-species/99161/8 "2023-05-28T16:58:07Z")

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I do think ChatGPT takes that firehose and turns it into a 1720ft high tsunami.

> **[8 of the Biggest Tsunamis in History](https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/650662/biggest-tsunamis-in-history)**
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> The biggest tsunami ever recorded reached 1720 feet high—which is taller than the Willis Tower in Chicago.
