# Migration of Google Groups to discourse

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**Created:** [October 19, 2016, 4:19am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/migration-of-google-groups-to-discourse/17 "2016-10-19T04:19:14Z")\
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# Announcement to julia-dev

We are currently in the process of moving `julia-dev` from Google Groups to a forum/mailing-list platform powered by [Discourse](http://www.discourse.org). For the reasons behind this move, please see the [statement of intent](https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/julia-users/Ov1J6MOVly0) on `julia-users`. We decided to move `julia-dev` first because of the smaller mail throughput and to see if our community is happy with the features Discourse offers.

The new web address is [Internals & Design - Julia Programming Language](http://discourse.julialang.org/c/dev).

The timeline for the migration is the following:

- Discourse is available from now on and we encourage everybody to post new topics there.
- On _DATE_, `julia-dev` will be set to read-only mode.

In order to give people the choice of opt-in, we opted for a **non-automated migration** , therefore we won’t move over previous content nor previous accounts.

Participation purely through **e-mails** is possible. For instructions on how to set it up, head over to [http://discourse.julialang.org/t/discourse-as-a-mailing-list](http://discourse.julialang.org/t/discourse-as-a-mailing-list) .

# Statement of intent on `julia-users`

The Julia community has been growing rapidly over the last few years and for its discussions uses many different services, including Google Groups (`julia-users`, `julia-dev` etc.), IRC and Gitter. Sometimes individual packages or organizations also use their own forums and chat rooms. All in all, that results in the fragmentation of our community’s online knowledge and in difficulties finding it, which leads to repetition of questions and other loss of time or cause for frustration.

To host the entire Julia community into one place, Discourse has been brought up in the past as a convenient platform to replace the currently used ones. Changing something established is tricky, so we decided to move slowly on this. For a first step, we are only migrating `julia-dev` to Discourse (see the corresponding post on `julia-dev` for a timeline).

We would like to solicit feedback from the broader Julia community about migrating `julia-users` to Discourse as well, and potentially other mailing lists like `julia-stats`. If you are interested in trying it out, please visit [http://discourse.julialang.org](http://discourse.julialang.org). Discourse is organized by categories, so **Development** is the new home of `julia-dev` and **General** would be the future home of `julia-users`.

If the community is happy with Discourse as a solution, we will move forward with the migration. The timetable would be roughly as follows:

1. About 4 weeks after the migration of `julia-dev`, decision to be made on executing or not the migration of `julia-users`, and on its date.
2. One week before the date of migration, post preparative announcement on `julia-users`.
3. On the date of migration, post final announcement on `julia-users` and set it into read-only mode.

Please post feedback or comments either at [http://discourse.julialang.org/t/migration-of-google-groups-to-discourse](http://discourse.julialang.org/t/migration-of-google-groups-to-discourse) or in this thread.

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