# Merge Chinese discourse into this site

**URL:** https://discourse.julialang.org/t/merge-chinese-discourse-into-this-site/14979
**Category:** Meta Discussion
**Created:** [September 14, 2018, 9:58pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/merge-chinese-discourse-into-this-site/14979 "2018-09-14T21:58:16Z")
**Posts on this page:** 14
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### Author: ![Roger-luo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/roger-luo/32/3399_2.png) [@Roger-luo](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Roger-luo)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2018, 9:58pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/merge-chinese-discourse-into-this-site/14979/1 "2018-09-14T21:58:16Z")

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We currently have a Chinese discourse for Julia with the following reasons:

- non English speakers can directly enter the discourse without reading any English with `discourse.juliacn.com`
- The server is local in mainland China, with a domain name registering (as the law requires)
- A local server might be faster for users (unfortunately due to some tech issue, this one is not really fast as well)

However, it would better to discuss things in one place if possible.

As discussed in slack with @viralbshah and @staticfloat , it will be possible to import old Chinese topics to this site technically. An initial plan is:

- sync the contents first in this site (which will direct people to this site)
- start solving and testing how to work around against GFW (the Great Fire Wall).

Any other comments?

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### Author: ![viralbshah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/viralbshah/32/54_2.png) [@viralbshah](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/viralbshah)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2018, 10:04pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/merge-chinese-discourse-into-this-site/14979/2 "2018-09-14T22:04:07Z")

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I think it would be great to have a common discourse for everyone, with support for other languages.

Can we have confirmation from users in mainland China that they can access [discourse.julialang.org](http://discourse.julialang.org) ok (lag may be acceptable as long as it works).

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### Author: ![simonbyrne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/simonbyrne/32/19_2.png) [@simonbyrne](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/simonbyrne)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2018, 10:52pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/merge-chinese-discourse-into-this-site/14979/3 "2018-09-14T22:52:31Z")

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Does discourse provide any sort of language features (e.g. filter by language, auto-translation), or would they all just appear in the one page?

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### Author: ![tk3369](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/tk3369/32/2824_2.png) [@tk3369](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/tk3369)
#### Post date: [September 15, 2018, 12:43am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/merge-chinese-discourse-into-this-site/14979/4 "2018-09-15T00:43:50Z")

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Is there any concern about the site not accessible from China at times due to the strict censorship aka. the great firewall of China?

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### Author: ![Roger-luo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/roger-luo/32/3399_2.png) [@Roger-luo](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Roger-luo)
#### Post date: [September 15, 2018, 12:53am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/merge-chinese-discourse-into-this-site/14979/5 "2018-09-15T00:53:36Z")

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This site is not blocked yet.

The policy looks vague, generally all website should register in an institute there with a person or a company and should have a local server. But now, some sites are blocked some are not. Generally, we will need a local server not only for better speed but also to be more legal.

But maybe it’s just because we are not large enough now…

But different area has different policy, I’m not sure if this site is accessible in Xinjiang and Tibet at the moment.

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### Author: ![Roger-luo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/roger-luo/32/3399_2.png) [@Roger-luo](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Roger-luo)
#### Post date: [September 15, 2018, 12:57am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/merge-chinese-discourse-into-this-site/14979/6 "2018-09-15T00:57:14Z")

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The main site, [julialang.org](http://julialang.org) was blocked/slow due to use of some google services years ago in my mind. (it’s good now)

[Github.com](http://Github.com) was also blocked once, since it is not registered (but I think it is because some people use gh-pages, issues and repos for political topics). I think the registration will at least keep your site be accessible stably.

Another concern is that how do we provide more native experience in Chinese? The topics and tags are all in English on this site, but [discourse.juliacn.com](http://discourse.juliacn.com) (almost) everything is Chinese.

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### Author: ![Tamas\_Papp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/tamas_papp/32/25949_2.png) [@Tamas\_Papp](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Tamas_Papp)
#### Post date: [September 15, 2018, 5:15am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/merge-chinese-discourse-into-this-site/14979/7 "2018-09-15T05:15:55Z")

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> [@Roger-luo](#):
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> However, it would better to discuss things in one place if possible.

Perhaps this is only relevant for those who speak both Chinese and English? For the rest of us, I guess posts in a language we do not understand would just be a distraction.

Mixed-language topics would be especially vexing, as one would have no way to tell if someone has contributed a solution without speaking both languages.

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### Author: ![Gnimuc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/gnimuc/32/2194_2.png) [@Gnimuc](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Gnimuc)
#### Post date: [September 15, 2018, 6:15am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/merge-chinese-discourse-into-this-site/14979/8 "2018-09-15T06:15:03Z")

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> Mixed-language topics would be especially vexing, as one would have no way to tell if someone has contributed a solution without speaking both languages.

+1 for this, an auto-redirecting would be sufficient.

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### Author: ![mohamed82008](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/mohamed82008/32/18171_2.png) [@mohamed82008](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/mohamed82008)
#### Post date: [September 15, 2018, 6:22am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/merge-chinese-discourse-into-this-site/14979/9 "2018-09-15T06:22:49Z")

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Also relevant are the community guidelines, stewards and moderators who may not understand the foreign language enough to moderate. So it will be a platform associated with the public image of Julia and Julia Computing without much knowledge of what’s going on in the foreign language posts, unless new moderators are added to cover all supported languages.

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### Author: ![foobar\_lv2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ee59a6/32.png) [@foobar\_lv2](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/foobar_lv2)
#### Post date: [September 15, 2018, 12:12pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/merge-chinese-discourse-into-this-site/14979/10 "2018-09-15T12:12:24Z")

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> [@Gnimuc](#):
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> +1 for this, an auto-redirecting would be sufficient.

Please no. The presumption of internet sites guessing preferred language/locality and redirecting there is annoying to no end (if I wanted Swedish google I would have connected to google.se). While this ship has sailed in general, there is no need to replicate this annoyance.

The only thing that makes sense to share between languages is login infrastructure, i.e. accounts.

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### Author: ![djsegal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/djsegal/32/13752_2.png) [@djsegal](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/djsegal)
#### Post date: [September 15, 2018, 3:15pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/merge-chinese-discourse-into-this-site/14979/11 "2018-09-15T15:15:33Z")

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What constitutes an action that requires government censorship in China?

Seems like it would be discouraging if the merge happened and then a random off-topic thread got it banned?

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### Author: ![tk3369](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/tk3369/32/2824_2.png) [@tk3369](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/tk3369)
#### Post date: [September 15, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/merge-chinese-discourse-into-this-site/14979/12 "2018-09-15T16:03:03Z")

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> [@Tamas\_Papp](#):
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> Perhaps this is only relevant for those who speak both Chinese and English? For the rest of us, I guess posts in a language we do not understand would just be a distraction.

Ideally Discourse should allow user to specify preferred languages and filter posts accordingly. Also have a translate button for showing the post in the user’s home language.

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### Author: ![viralbshah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/viralbshah/32/54_2.png) [@viralbshah](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/viralbshah)
#### Post date: [September 15, 2018, 4:09pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/merge-chinese-discourse-into-this-site/14979/13 "2018-09-15T16:09:00Z")

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Also, can’t we just have different discourse Categories for different languages?

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### Author: ![vchuravy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/vchuravy/32/8_2.png) [@vchuravy](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/vchuravy)
#### Post date: [September 15, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/merge-chinese-discourse-into-this-site/14979/14 "2018-09-15T16:11:54Z")

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See [Spanish language community](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/spanish-language-community/340) for related discussions and [Make a multi-language forum - feature - Discourse Meta](https://meta.discourse.org/t/make-a-multi-language-forum/18501)
