# Julia Programming Language on Bluesky

**URL:** <https://discourse.julialang.org/t/julia-programming-language-on-bluesky/123054>\
**Category:** Community\
**Tags:** announcement\
**Created:** [November 25, 2024, 7:05pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/julia-programming-language-on-bluesky/123054 "2024-11-25T19:05:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![nsajko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/nsajko/32/221187_2.png) [@nsajko](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/nsajko)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 11:00am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/julia-programming-language-on-bluesky/123054/21 "2024-11-26T11:00:18Z")

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> **[Bluesky](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluesky)**
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> Bluesky\[b\] is a microblogging social networking service modeled after and inspired by Twitter. Users can share text messages, images, and videos in short posts. The service is primarily operated by Bluesky Social, an American benefit corporation.
> Bluesky was developed as a reference implementation of the AT Protocol, an open communication protocol for distributed social networks. Bluesky Social promotes a composable user experience and algorithmic choice as core features of Bluesky. The platf...

Interesting. Bluesky actually started as a research project at Twitter, but is now a separate company. Furthermore, it’s the reference implementation of a new decentralized social networking protocol, not based on ActivityPub:

> **[AT Protocol](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT_Protocol)**
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> The AT Protocol (Authenticated Transfer Protocol, pronounced "at-protocol" and commonly shortened to ATProto) is a protocol and open standard for decentralized social networking services. It is under development by Bluesky Social PBC, a public benefit corporation originally created as an independent research group within Twitter to investigate the possibility of decentralizing the service. 
> The AT Protocol aims to address perceived issues with other decentralized protocols, such as user experien...

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**Author:** ![sob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@sob](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/sob)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 11:19am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/julia-programming-language-on-bluesky/123054/22 "2024-11-26T11:19:15Z")

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I welcome Julia on a new media.

And I would love it if political discourse and judgement of this or that platform were not relevant (and ignored) when discussing a programming language.

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**Author:** ![Benny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/49beb7/32.png) [@Benny](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Benny)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 12:27pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/julia-programming-language-on-bluesky/123054/23 "2024-11-26T12:27:55Z")

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> [@DanielVandH](#):
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> This is not a matter of “political orientation”

Even if it’s not as bad as 4chan, it’s definitely not a good thing if the leader and moderators use the platform to promote or censor content based on their political orientation and aspirations, which is not even debatable for X currently.

> [@sob](#):
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> And I would love it if political discourse and judgement of this or that platform were not relevant (and ignored) when discussing a programming language.

Which makes it all the more important to choose a platform that doesn’t throw political content and bots in our faces. I do use Facebook and YouTube, and while the leaders may not have as obvious a political motivation as Elon Musk, there is a lot of sponsored political bait. I might tolerate watching a video or ad about Julia there, but I’d never try to talk to anyone on there about it.

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**Author:** ![goerz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/goerz/32/3269_2.png) [@goerz](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/goerz)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 12:33pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/julia-programming-language-on-bluesky/123054/24 "2024-11-26T12:33:27Z")

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Even though I brought up the “problem” with X, I agree that we should avoid political discourse on this platform. That probably includes too much back-and-forth about exactly how odious X, its owner, or the upcoming U.S. administration is. Clearly, we should be tolerant of a wide range of political views, while still upholding the core values that define the community.

There are difficult moral and practical questions around this. I would certainly like everyone to ponder the differences between political views and ethical values, and philosophical issues like the [paradox of tolerance](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance), but this is probably not the forum to do even that. It’s difficult to discuss in a level-headed way, and not to [slide into hyperbole](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/julia-programming-language-on-bluesky/123054/14). There’s a real danger of creating bad blood quickly if we let this thread go down too much of a rabbit whole. Let’s try to avoid that.

I think that at this point, the people managing Julia’s social media accounts can make their own decisions on how to deal with specific platforms. I don’t envy them having to make such decisions, but I certainly don’t want to pile on.

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**Author:** ![mihalybaci](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/mihalybaci/32/13528_2.png) [@mihalybaci](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/mihalybaci)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 1:19pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/julia-programming-language-on-bluesky/123054/25 "2024-11-26T13:19:53Z")

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I really like the idea of listing relevant hashtags alongside the platforms that use them. Hashtags are of special importance on Mastodon in particular because of the more limited way toots are boosted to the public view (to use the proper parlance).

I am not on Bluesky, but I’ve heard they have something called “starter packs” which are curated lists of people that newcomers can add to bulk follow people instead of finding/following people indvidually. Perhaps a JuliaLang Bluesky starter pack would be a good idea?

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**Author:** ![goerz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/goerz/32/3269_2.png) [@goerz](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/goerz)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 1:21pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/julia-programming-language-on-bluesky/123054/26 "2024-11-26T13:21:38Z")

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> Perhaps a JuliaLang Bluesky starter pack would be a good idea?

There is one!

> **[Julia Programmers!](https://bsky.app/starter-pack/thecedarprince.bsky.social/3lafxiiu77i2h)**
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> Join the conversation

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**Author:** ![mihalybaci](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/mihalybaci/32/13528_2.png) [@mihalybaci](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/mihalybaci)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 1:47pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/julia-programming-language-on-bluesky/123054/27 "2024-11-26T13:47:14Z")

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🤯

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**Author:** ![Jake](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/jake/32/46007_2.png) [@Jake](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Jake)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 1:55pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/julia-programming-language-on-bluesky/123054/28 "2024-11-26T13:55:15Z")

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**Author:** ![nsajko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/nsajko/32/221187_2.png) [@nsajko](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/nsajko)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 2:06pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/julia-programming-language-on-bluesky/123054/29 "2024-11-26T14:06:58Z")

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As some here already said, pretty sure this is the wrong venue for political discussion. Nothing good for Julia or the community would come from that.

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**Author:** ![gdalle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/gdalle/32/27854_2.png) [@gdalle](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/gdalle)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 2:08pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/julia-programming-language-on-bluesky/123054/30 "2024-11-26T14:08:08Z")

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As a moderator, I strongly suggest we keep this discussion focused on the potential of BlueSky for the Julia community, rather than the comparative merits of American political parties or other social network companies.

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**Author:** ![mbauman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/mbauman/32/31082_2.png) [@mbauman](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/mbauman)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 2:23pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/julia-programming-language-on-bluesky/123054/31 "2024-11-26T14:23:12Z")

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Yep, I’ll go farther and say this topic has accomplished its purpose: the BlueSky account has been announced, folks are getting connected there as they choose, and there’s even now a starter pack/list folks can join.

Thanks all!

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**Author:** ![mbauman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/mbauman/32/31082_2.png) [@mbauman](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/mbauman)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 2:23pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/julia-programming-language-on-bluesky/123054/32 "2024-11-26T14:23:17Z")

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