# Is Apple accelerate on Mac mini 4 mature enough for numerical simulation?

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**Created:** [November 21, 2024, 10:58am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/is-apple-accelerate-on-mac-mini-4-mature-enough-for-numerical-simulation/122890 "2024-11-21T10:58:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![photor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/photor/32/14343_2.png) [@photor](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/photor)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 10:58am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/is-apple-accelerate-on-mac-mini-4-mature-enough-for-numerical-simulation/122890/1 "2024-11-21T10:58:06Z")

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I know that MATLAB has mature support for Apple accelerate. But how if we only use Python or Julia? Our numerical works are mainly dense linear algebra.

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**Author:** ![Oscar\_Smith](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/oscar_smith/32/25343_2.png) [@Oscar\_Smith](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Oscar_Smith)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 2:00pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/is-apple-accelerate-on-mac-mini-4-mature-enough-for-numerical-simulation/122890/2 "2024-11-21T14:00:32Z")

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yes. on Mac, `using AppleAccelerate` is going to speed up your code

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**Author:** ![photor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/photor/32/14343_2.png) [@photor](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/photor)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2025, 11:29am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/is-apple-accelerate-on-mac-mini-4-mature-enough-for-numerical-simulation/122890/3 "2025-03-14T11:29:07Z")

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So, if using AppleAccelerate.jl, then what is the equivalent Intel CPU level in terms of the linear algebra performance for this Mac mini 4? What about the new Mac Studio with M3 Ultra?

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**Author:** ![ufechner7](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/ufechner7/32/51363_2.png) [@ufechner7](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/ufechner7)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2025, 12:59pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/is-apple-accelerate-on-mac-mini-4-mature-enough-for-numerical-simulation/122890/4 "2025-03-14T12:59:03Z")

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> [@photor](#):
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> Mac mini 4

Perhaps it is comparable with Ryzen ai 365?

> **[Apple M4 (10-Core) vs AMD Ryzen AI 9 365: performance comparison](https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-compare/apple-m4-vs-amd-ryzen-ai-9-365)**
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> We compared 10-core Apple M4 (10-Core) (4.41 GHz) against AMD Ryzen AI 9 365 (2 GHz) in games and benchmarks. Find out which CPU has better...

But it is always difficult to make these comparisons, because it really depends on the benchmark you run. Apple computers have a very high RAM bandwidth, no other CPU beats them in this discipline. On the other hand, if you need a lot of RAM than you are better with AMD64 CPUs.

Nice, small AMD64 desktop computers: [Framework | Order a Framework Desktop with AMD Ryzen™ AI Max 300](https://frame.work/nl/en/desktop)

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**Author:** ![photor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/photor/32/14343_2.png) [@photor](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/photor)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2025, 1:17pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/is-apple-accelerate-on-mac-mini-4-mature-enough-for-numerical-simulation/122890/5 "2025-03-14T13:17:46Z")

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Thanks a lot, but it seems not available in China …