My surgestion is that you can some how be able to switch to an indentation version of Julia at the top of your document. So you both have a version with end statement and a version without. I know the developers of julia wanted the notation of end statement to be more like MATLAB and I agree with th…

Are you sure you want to create you totally own syntax that diverges from every one else’s? How does this impact collaboration and code sharing? But actually the worst thing that could happen was if this were allowed, and the end-less syntax became popular, causing a schism in the language. The whi…

I don’t mind Python’s use of whitespaces or Julia’s use of end, but I would really dislike having both in the same language.

I suspect this applies here, even though the proposal is for an option rather than a breaking change: [image] PSA: Julia is not at that stage of development anymore Internals & Design You heard about this brand new exciting programming language called Julia and have some …

[image] DNF: The whitespace sensitivity of Python is imo its single worst feature, and I would be very unhappy for it to become a Julia feature. It’s a tradeoff with some good and bad points , but in any case it’s something that the Julia developers decided against early in the language’s deve…

I don’t see any real arguments for indentation sensitivity there. In fact, the one argument (“end is 3 characters”) is easily countered by " is 4 characters". I want to extend some praise here for Julia developers making the sensible choice - this is one of the reasons I have never wanted to lear…

[image] gustaphe: I don’t see any real arguments for indentation sensitivity there. The arguments for indentation sensitivity, as I understand it, are not just saving typing; they are mainly (a) eliminating the “visual noise” of end statements to enhance readability (whereas whitespace introd…

[image] stevengj: (a) eliminating the “visual noise” of end statements to enhance readability (whereas whitespace introduces no “noise”) I tend to think of it as ‘signal’, not ‘noise’. It carries useful information. I wouldn’t say that whitespace isn’t noisy. It certainly looks disturbing to …

What about an editor plugin? In the situations where indentation matches and the end is on a line by itself, you could just hide the line. Editors can currently also automatically insert ends and indent. That seems far more tractable — then it’s not a dialect of Julia or even an option. It’s a di…

Fun fact: Juno displays end with lower opacity for this reason [grafik]

My Julia color theme for VS Code also colors the end keyword a darker color: [image]

Indentation and the end statement

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johnmyleswhite January 5, 2022, 12:38pm 4

I suspect this applies here, even though the proposal is for an option rather than a breaking change:

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Indentation and the end statement

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