# Discussing quotes of DMs of thoughts of others on LoopVectorization

**URL:** <https://discourse.julialang.org/t/discussing-quotes-of-dms-of-thoughts-of-others-on-loopvectorization/125625>\
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**Created:** [February 6, 2025, 3:09pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/discussing-quotes-of-dms-of-thoughts-of-others-on-loopvectorization/125625 "2025-02-06T15:09:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![cocoa1231](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/cocoa1231/32/22215_2.png) [@cocoa1231](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/cocoa1231)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 3:09pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/discussing-quotes-of-dms-of-thoughts-of-others-on-loopvectorization/125625/1 "2025-02-06T15:09:44Z")

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I guess what I’m asking is that is there a limit that packages will hit when needing to optimize for better performance while being maintainable like what happened to `LoopModels`. This specific package was just the context in which I first saw this happen.

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**Author:** ![Mason](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/mason/32/2423_2.png) [@Mason](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Mason)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 3:15pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/discussing-quotes-of-dms-of-thoughts-of-others-on-loopvectorization/125625/2 "2025-02-06T15:15:17Z")

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That’s his opinion and he’s welcome to it. Most people here disagree with him (including myself) and that’s okay.

Some people really like C++. Some people don’t. You’ll find a **lot** more people here who would prefer to _not_ write library code in C++ than you would the other way around. If you went to a C++ forum, you’d likely find that most people there prefer to write libraries in C++, rather than julia. Surprise surprise.

There’s tradeoffs here. Neither language is uniformly better at everything.

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Sidenote, can we please not make this conversation about someone’s opinion who clearly doesn’t want to talk about this here? I regret making that comment in the first place, as it wasn’t really my place to say it anyways.

Maybe a moderator can just delete my old comment and edit it out of the quotes here in this thread (cc @mbauman @gdalle?)

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**Author:** ![cocoa1231](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/cocoa1231/32/22215_2.png) [@cocoa1231](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/cocoa1231)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 3:23pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/discussing-quotes-of-dms-of-thoughts-of-others-on-loopvectorization/125625/3 "2025-02-06T15:23:28Z")

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> [@Mason](#):
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> Sidenote, can we please not make this conversation about someone’s opinion who clearly doesn’t want to talk about this? I regret making that comment in the first place, as it wasn’t really my place to say it anyways.

ah I’m sorry, I didn’t realize it was inappropriate. I’d be happy to delete this thread (if discourse allows) and maybe make a new one without any quotes? I just quoted for context and because (I assume) everybody mentioned knows a lot more than me.

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**Author:** ![mbauman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/mbauman/32/31082_2.png) [@mbauman](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/mbauman)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 3:38pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/discussing-quotes-of-dms-of-thoughts-of-others-on-loopvectorization/125625/4 "2025-02-06T15:38:48Z")

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It’s definitely leaning towards the kind of internet drama that isn’t productive — through no fault of your own here you’re quoting someone quoting from a private DM speculating about someone’s internal motivation in a short enough quip that it’s basically a hot take.

That’s probably not a great start for a thread, no. 🙂

I do think the general question itself is fine — especially if it is looking at actions instead. E.g.,

> I see that [LoopModels](https://github.com/LoopModels/LoopModels) says that it’s “intended to be the successor to [LoopVectorization.jl](https://github.com/JuliaSIMD/LoopVectorization.jl)”
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> It’s written in C++. Is there a cliff upon which packages will hit like what happened to LoopModels?

While I do have the power, I’m _very loathe_ to edit others’ posts. It’d be great if you would do so, however, especially as Mason requested it. I can then move the subsequent commentary about the direct quotes into a separate — potentially unlisted — topic.

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**Author:** ![mbauman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/mbauman/32/31082_2.png) [@mbauman](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/mbauman)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 3:48pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/discussing-quotes-of-dms-of-thoughts-of-others-on-loopvectorization/125625/5 "2025-02-06T15:48:24Z")

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Closed on February 6, 2025, 3:48pm UTC



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**Author:** ![mbauman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/mbauman/32/31082_2.png) [@mbauman](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/mbauman)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 3:48pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/discussing-quotes-of-dms-of-thoughts-of-others-on-loopvectorization/125625/6 "2025-02-06T15:48:29Z")

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Unlisted on February 6, 2025, 3:48pm UTC