…but with a more pythonic syntax: Mojo 🔥: Programming language for all of AI

[image] tchebycheff: Imagine if Julia had adopted Python syntax! :grimacing:

Ruined? How so? Is def + colon and 0-indexing so much worse than function + end and 1-indexing? It would have been epic trolling. Imagine multi-threading and doing ML with “native python”.

That’s the most important question, and I don’t think we have a real answer to it. I’ve been listening to Chris Lattner since the Mojo announcement to figure out what secret sauce they are using to solve the problems that every other make-Python-fast initiative encounters. So far I haven’t seen anyt…

This would be really bad: In [1]: x = [1,2] In [2]: y = [3,4] In [3]: x + y Out[3]: [1, 2, 3, 4] So a good depart from python syntax would be required to support natively array operations with mathematical sense. (and I think this is the greatest Mojo challenge: can the python syntax be maintai…

There’s a trillion differences, first of all no structs, no type parameters. No module, obj.method() calling, etc etc. And, worst of all, no end-delimiters, but whitespace instead🥶 The features and syntax are closely connected.

[image] DNF: but whitespace instead well, Julia has some whitespace too :wink:

[image] lmiq: So a good depart from python syntax w No a departure from Python semantics would be required. But you could use the syntax to mean vector addition without changing the syntax. Since the original post was imagining trolling python that’s what they meant I think.

Correct! Just like Mojo has its own non-python stuff. A core argument from Mojo against Julia seems to be, “Oh, but people don’t want to learn new syntax.”

I think having the same syntax but different semantics would just be needlessly confusing. You’d always expect it to behave like python, when in fact it does not - having different syntax serves as a VERY good reminder that julia just isn’t python (and thinking of julia or mojo as a “just faster pyt…

[image] DNF: The features and syntax are closely connected. In the sense that using all the features Julia offers in a reasonably compact way requires dedicated syntax to most of them, you are right. But given the semantics of Julia, a practically infinite range of syntactic variation could …

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adienes June 14, 2023, 3:57pm 221

well, Julia has some whitespace too

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