# Contingency plan for JuliaCon
**URL:** https://discourse.julialang.org/t/contingency-plan-for-juliacon/126207
**Category:** Community
**Created:** [February 23, 2025, 9:27am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/contingency-plan-for-juliacon/126207 "2025-02-23T09:27:31Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Zgabalj](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Zgabalj)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2025, 9:27am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/contingency-plan-for-juliacon/126207/1 "2025-02-23T09:27:31Z")
Based on the ongoing events, has there been any effort to move JuliaCon 2025 to another location (preferably another country)?
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### Author:  [@cjdoris](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/cjdoris)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2025, 10:11am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/contingency-plan-for-juliacon/126207/2 "2025-02-23T10:11:55Z")
What are you expecting to happen to Pittsburgh? đź‘€
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### Author:  [@rafael.guerra](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/rafael.guerra)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2025, 10:21am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/contingency-plan-for-juliacon/126207/3 "2025-02-23T10:21:17Z")
It will depend on the King’s mood.
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### Author:  [@nsajko](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/nsajko)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2025, 10:32am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/contingency-plan-for-juliacon/126207/4 "2025-02-23T10:32:17Z")
Pretty sure it’s too late to change the location.
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### Author:  [@mrufsvold](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/mrufsvold)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2025, 12:31pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/contingency-plan-for-juliacon/126207/5 "2025-02-23T12:31:07Z")
I’m not involved with JuliaCon planning, but having done a good amount of event planning in the past, I’d say that the contingency would have to be virtual at this point. Getting buy in, coordinating an alternative, negotiating with a venue, etc would be an intense undertaking for a team of volunteers given that we have less than 6 months at this point.
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### Author:  [@xiaoxi](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/xiaoxi)
#### Post date: [March 21, 2025, 6:46am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/contingency-plan-for-juliacon/126207/6 "2025-03-21T06:46:00Z")
In recent days there has been disturbing news about tourists traveling to the United States. And because of that, there is a boycott campaign not to attend the IETF meeting in San Francisco next year.
> **[Boycott IETF 127](https://boycott-ietf127.org)**
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> The IETF LLC has decided to continue to hold meetings in the US. Voice your disagreement with this decision here.
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### Author:  [@rafael.guerra](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/rafael.guerra)
#### Post date: [March 21, 2025, 8:51pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/contingency-plan-for-juliacon/126207/7 "2025-03-21T20:51:09Z")
There was also the case of the French scientist who was denied entry to the United States after a “random check”, which he claimed was because of his political views found in his electronic devices.
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### Author:  [@LeePhillips](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/LeePhillips)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2025, 4:33pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/contingency-plan-for-juliacon/126207/8 "2025-03-22T16:33:04Z")
I assume when I see an organization holding an “international” meeting in the United States that they are not serious about it being international. This has been [true](https://daniel.haxx.se/us-visa.html) at least since September of 2001, and has little to do with Trump. For example, the process to get a visa to enter the US from many Latin American countries is deliberately onerous, expensive, and includes a waiting time for a required interview of over a year. (I am a US citizen.)
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### Author:  [@ufechner7](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/ufechner7)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2025, 9:49pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/contingency-plan-for-juliacon/126207/9 "2025-03-22T21:49:46Z")
Yes, traveling to the US is not safe these days, see [European countries, Canada issue advisories for travelers to U.S. : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2025/03/22/nx-s1-5336792/european-countries-canada-travel-warnings-us) . But for people from the global South getting a conference visa to Canada or Europe is also difficult to obtain, and will often not work.
So which country would be a good choice for an international conference where everybody would be welcome?
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### Author:  [@LeePhillips](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/LeePhillips)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2025, 10:02pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/contingency-plan-for-juliacon/126207/10 "2025-03-22T22:02:32Z")
I don’t know of any specific problems with conference visas. But for many if not most L.A. countries, tourist travel to Europe is as easy, or almost, as for a U.S. citizen. Really, almost any country (aside from North Korea and a few others) is easier to get into than the U.S.
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### Author:  [@rafael.guerra](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/rafael.guerra)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2025, 10:35pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/contingency-plan-for-juliacon/126207/11 "2025-03-22T22:35:59Z")
> [@ufechner7](#):
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> So which country would be a good choice for an international conference where everybody would be welcome?
The country with the [world’s best beaches](https://www.houstoniamag.com/travel-and-outdoors/2019/03/seychelles-travel-guide) has a [visa policy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_Seychelles) that welcomes everyone (but it won’t be cheap to get there).
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### Author:  [@Eben60](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Eben60)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2025, 12:25am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/contingency-plan-for-juliacon/126207/12 "2025-03-23T00:25:39Z")
> [@ufechner7](#):
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> Yes, traveling to the US is not safe these days, see [European countries, Canada issue advisories for travelers to U.S. : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2025/03/22/nx-s1-5336792/european-countries-canada-travel-warnings-us)
The advisories in the reference above “_warning their citizens who travel to the United States to strictly follow the country’s entry rules_.” - I think it is generally a good idea when entering a foreign country.
For a somehow objective evaluation of risks, does anybody have any quantitative data on detentions, and specifically data on detentions without serious reason? USA are visited annually by a few dozen million foreigners, thus a divisor is approximately known, but what about dividend?
As for Seychelles - [there are risks there, too](https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/seychelles/safety-and-security). Are they lower as compared to USA? - my uninformed guess, no.
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### Author:  [@Benny](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Benny)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2025, 12:41am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/contingency-plan-for-juliacon/126207/13 "2025-03-23T00:41:07Z")
> [@Eben60](#):
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> data on detentions without serious reason? USA are visited annually by a few dozen million foreigners, thus a divisor is approximately known, but what about dividend?
In the US, no. The concerns are about very recent political changes on the order of months, so we wouldn’t have an annual statistic even if there is someone keeping track, which is less likely given the federal job cuts. I don’t blame people for being cautious over an unstable unknown situation.
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### Author:  [@heliosdrm](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/heliosdrm)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2025, 7:39am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/contingency-plan-for-juliacon/126207/14 "2025-03-23T07:39:23Z")
Although this thread is labelled in the “Community” category, it has the risk of becoming rather an “Offtopic” one. The OP asked a specific question about JuliaCon, seemingly related to the rapid decline that the image of USA as a welcoming country for visitors is suffering in the present. As could be expected with such a question, the conversation is moving towards a discussion about whether that image is realistic, justified… and in a couple of further messages, maybe about the politics behind it.
I would recommend a simple answer by the organizers of JuliaCon, and proceed to closing the thread to avoid further derailing.
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### Author:  [@xiaoxi](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/xiaoxi)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2025, 7:58am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/contingency-plan-for-juliacon/126207/15 "2025-03-23T07:58:11Z")
I hope that little by little there will be more JuliaCon Locals, so that the Julia community will not have to rely too much on one big event.
> We are working on a unified playbook for how to build your local community, how to get access to awesome speakers, and how to find spaces and funds for your meetup, so please keep an eye out for that on our usual channels!
Is there any progress in this regard?
> **[JuliaCon Global 2025 and JuliaCon 2024 Wrap-Up](https://julialang.org/blog/2024/09/juliacon-2025-announcement/)**
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> JuliaCon Global 2025 and JuliaCon 2024 Wrap-Up Blogpost.
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### Author:  [@gdalle](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/gdalle)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2025, 8:30am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/contingency-plan-for-juliacon/126207/16 "2025-03-23T08:30:01Z")
> [@xiaoxi](#):
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> I hope that little by little there will be more JuliaCon Locals, so that the Julia community will not have to rely too much on one big event.
There is a [JuliaCon Local Paris 2025](https://juliacon.org/local/paris2025/).
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### Author:  [@e3c6](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/e3c6)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2025, 9:34am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/contingency-plan-for-juliacon/126207/17 "2025-03-23T09:34:47Z")
> [@rafael.guerra](#):
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> There was also the case of the French scientist who was denied entry to the United States after a “random check”, which he claimed was because of his political views found in his electronic devices.
[French scientist denied US entry after phone messages critical of Trump found | US news | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/trump-musk-french-scientist-detained).
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### Author:  [@xiaoxi](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/xiaoxi)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2025, 9:46am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/contingency-plan-for-juliacon/126207/18 "2025-03-23T09:46:21Z")
> [@gdalle](#):
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> There is a [JuliaCon Local Paris 2025](https://juliacon.org/local/paris2025/).
If some speakers are unable to travel to the U.S., but are able to present at the Paris event, JuliaCon Local Paris could be renamed JuliaCon Global Part Two.
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### Author:  [@gdalle](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/gdalle)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2025, 9:50am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/contingency-plan-for-juliacon/126207/19 "2025-03-23T09:50:34Z")
> [@xiaoxi](#):
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> If some speakers are unable to travel to the U.S., but are able to present at the Paris event, JuliaCon Local Paris could be renamed JuliaCon Global Part Two.
No it can’t. It’s a JuliaCon Local conference and advertised as such. The Global event is still in Pittsburgh.
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### Author:  [@xiaoxi](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/xiaoxi)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2025, 2:33pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/contingency-plan-for-juliacon/126207/20 "2025-03-25T14:33:41Z")
Crypto 2025, in a similar situation to JuliaCon Global, has decided to become a hybrid event.
> Given recent instances of US visa holders and residents being detained or deported by US immigration authorities, we understand that some members of our community may not feel safe traveling to the US for Crypto this year. We want to assure everyone that we will provide the option to present and attend remotely.
> **[Crypto 2025](https://crypto.iacr.org/2025/)**
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> Crypto 2025
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