# Change the name of Julia to JULai

**URL:** <https://discourse.julialang.org/t/change-the-name-of-julia-to-julai/87407>\
**Category:** Offtopic\
**Created:** [September 17, 2022, 3:41pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/change-the-name-of-julia-to-julai/87407 "2022-09-17T15:41:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![NickW3101](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/nickw3101/32/42611_2.png) [@NickW3101](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/NickW3101)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 3:41pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/change-the-name-of-julia-to-julai/87407/1 "2022-09-17T15:41:38Z")

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The word Julia is hard for Google searches. JULai wouldn’t be confused with anything else.

Edit: Scrap JULai as the name suggestion but a completely unique 1 to 2 syllable word

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**Author:** ![kristoffer.carlsson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/kristoffer.carlsson/32/22_2.png) [@kristoffer.carlsson](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/kristoffer.carlsson)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 4:17pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/change-the-name-of-julia-to-julai/87407/2 "2022-09-17T16:17:56Z")

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But Jul is the Swedish name for Christmas so that would be confusing.

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**Author:** ![carstenbauer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/carstenbauer/32/4981_2.png) [@carstenbauer](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/carstenbauer)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 4:19pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/change-the-name-of-julia-to-julai/87407/3 "2022-09-17T16:19:57Z")

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FWIW, I just use `jl` for Julia related searches and that works great.

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**Author:** ![Sukera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sukera](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Sukera)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 4:50pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/change-the-name-of-julia-to-julai/87407/4 "2022-09-17T16:50:17Z")

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Would this be better in the `Offtopic` category?

Also, the name is not going to change now.

> [@PSA: Julia is not at that stage of development anymore](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/psa-julia-is-not-at-that-stage-of-development-anymore/44872):
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> You heard about this brand new exciting programming language called Julia and have some suggestions for how it should work. Wonderful! We’re happy to have you here and help you learn the language and listen to your ideas! However, please be aware that “new” is a relative term. Yes, Julia is newer than, say, C, which was first created in 1972 and standardized in 1989. It is not, however, new in the sense that it is still being freely designed and changed in arbitrary ways. Julia development start…

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**Author:** ![DoktorMike](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/doktormike/32/2736_2.png) [@DoktorMike](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/DoktorMike)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 6:08pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/change-the-name-of-julia-to-julai/87407/5 "2022-09-17T18:08:21Z")

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Indeed writing `julia` in any search is a sure way to get you nonsense results. I would recommend `julialang`, `jl`, `"julia programming language"`, etc.

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**Author:** ![nsajko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/nsajko/32/221187_2.png) [@nsajko](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/nsajko)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 6:17pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/change-the-name-of-julia-to-julai/87407/6 "2022-09-17T18:17:40Z")

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> [@Sukera](#):
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> Would this be better in the `Offtopic` category?

First time I’m doing this, hope noone minds. Offtopic is for stuff that doesn’t fit in other categories. I’d say this fits in neither General nor Community so I put it in Off-topic.

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**Author:** ![rafael.guerra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/rafael.guerra/32/216610_2.png) [@rafael.guerra](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/rafael.guerra)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 6:22pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/change-the-name-of-julia-to-julai/87407/7 "2022-09-17T18:22:16Z")

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Julia Bekashed, with the surname derived from the initials of the founding fathers (Be-Ka-Sh-Ed). With a little good will, it even sounds like Johnny Cash…

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**Author:** ![lmiq](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/lmiq/32/18314_2.png) [@lmiq](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/lmiq)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 8:04pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/change-the-name-of-julia-to-julai/87407/8 "2022-09-17T20:04:03Z")

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If “C” made it, Julia has nothing to worry about namewise.

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**Author:** ![digital\_carver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/digital_carver/32/33818_2.png) [@digital\_carver](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/digital_carver)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 9:25pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/change-the-name-of-julia-to-julai/87407/9 "2022-09-17T21:25:57Z")

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I thought this was going to be a joke about typo-ing Julia as Julai, and so wanting to change the name to accommodate the typo 😀 Is it just me that makes that typo a lot? At least half my web searches related to Julia start off as ‘julai … …’ before getting corrected!

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**Author:** ![gustaphe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/gustaphe/32/18174_2.png) [@gustaphe](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/gustaphe)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 8:38am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/change-the-name-of-julia-to-julai/87407/10 "2022-09-18T08:38:01Z")

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C wasn’t designed to be googleable. With C, C# and C++ all looking the same to search engines, it’s actually a uniquely difficult language to search.

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**Author:** ![Benny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/49beb7/32.png) [@Benny](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Benny)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 8:46am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/change-the-name-of-julia-to-julai/87407/11 "2022-09-18T08:46:20Z")

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That would unintentionally draw in the Chris-chan fans and that is not something you want.

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**Author:** ![DNF](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/dnf/32/10191_2.png) [@DNF](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/DNF)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 8:58am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/change-the-name-of-julia-to-julai/87407/12 "2022-09-18T08:58:52Z")

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> [@rafael.guerra](#):
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> Julia Bekashed

You misspelled ‘bikeshed’.

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**Author:** ![heliosdrm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/heliosdrm/32/3851_2.png) [@heliosdrm](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/heliosdrm)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 9:28am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/change-the-name-of-julia-to-julai/87407/13 "2022-09-18T09:28:31Z")

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And “julai” (or “julay”) is a comtemptuous insult in Spanish you definitely don’t want to be associated to the project.

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**Author:** ![nsajko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/nsajko/32/221187_2.png) [@nsajko](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/nsajko)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 10:14am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/change-the-name-of-julia-to-julai/87407/14 "2022-09-18T10:14:51Z")

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I’m guessing that was intentional 😁

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**Author:** ![DNF](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/dnf/32/10191_2.png) [@DNF](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/DNF)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 10:16am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/change-the-name-of-julia-to-julai/87407/15 "2022-09-18T10:16:16Z")

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I agree, it is quite subtle.

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**Author:** ![tbeason](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/tbeason/32/15898_2.png) [@tbeason](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/tbeason)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 1:01pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/change-the-name-of-julia-to-julai/87407/16 "2022-09-18T13:01:02Z")

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Pretty sure the words Python and Rust were around long before the programming languages of the same name.

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**Author:** ![dylanxyz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/dylanxyz/32/36646_2.png) [@dylanxyz](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/dylanxyz)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 1:40pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/change-the-name-of-julia-to-julai/87407/17 "2022-09-18T13:40:48Z")

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With google you can use the `AND` operator to be more specific, for example:

```julia
julia AND programming

```

Tells Google to only show search results for `julia` if it has any relations with the keyword `programming`.

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**Author:** ![nsajko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/nsajko/32/221187_2.png) [@nsajko](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/nsajko)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 2:29pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/change-the-name-of-julia-to-julai/87407/18 "2022-09-18T14:29:10Z")

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Google’s algorithms are of course secret, so I can’t know for sure, but I think that your information is very outdated. If one, for example, checks out the Google Advanced Search page, one sees that `OR` exists as a query operator, but `AND` isn’t mentioned:  
[https://www.google.com/advanced\_search](https://www.google.com/advanced_search)

On the other hand, it’s possible to just do `julia programming` instead of `julia AND programming`.

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**Author:** ![dylanxyz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/dylanxyz/32/36646_2.png) [@dylanxyz](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/dylanxyz)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 2:54pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/change-the-name-of-julia-to-julai/87407/19 "2022-09-18T14:54:54Z")

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Yeah i guess you’re right. Starting to think now i don’t even remember where i saw something about `AND`. Maybe it existed before, but now just multiple words already works as `AND` worked before.