# Censorship issues and community behavior

**URL:** <https://discourse.julialang.org/t/censorship-issues-and-community-behavior/7442>\
**Category:** Community\
**Created:** [December 1, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/censorship-issues-and-community-behavior/7442 "2017-12-01T17:30:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![pkofod](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/pkofod/32/2179_2.png) [@pkofod](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/pkofod)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 8:49am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/censorship-issues-and-community-behavior/7442/41 "2017-12-05T08:49:54Z")

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Most projects revolve around a group of people, and not all communication between that group of people is visible to the public eye 🙂 However, I do agree that it is not universally true that pinging people should be prohibited. In that case the feature should simply be removed.

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**Author:** ![Tamas\_Papp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/tamas_papp/32/25949_2.png) [@Tamas\_Papp](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/Tamas_Papp)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 9:13am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/censorship-issues-and-community-behavior/7442/42 "2017-12-05T09:13:18Z")

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My understanding is that, possibly in response to this ping, Tom Breloff wrote a [blog post](http://www.breloff.com/plots-past-present-future/) which reaffirms the information that he is not actively involved in `Plots.jl` at the moment. So pinging made him spend time (which, apparently, is a scarce resource for him ATM) on confirming something which was already known, or could have been found out with relatively little effort. I can imagine that the blog post is a polite way of letting people know about the situation, so that he is not contacted about it repeatedly.

I am not sure this was helpful to him. Sure, this is not the end of the world, and getting yet another e-mail can be dealt with easily. But these things pile up. My concern was (and is) the following: if, instead of using this forum and Github issues, unwarranted direct contact of maintaners (or ex-maintainers) of packages becomes a norm in this community, it could be a bad experience for package maintainers.

One of the implicit understandings of (unsponsored) open source software is that the time of contributors is a gift. We can make no demands on their time (however minor), and must make every effort to streamline the administrivia they have to devote to the software. This also benefits the community, because they can spend their time improving the software. Pings and PMs result in e-mails, which are the worst possible way of communication about software. That’s why we should use them sparingly.

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**Author:** ![ihnorton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/julialang/user_avatar/discourse.julialang.org/ihnorton/32/26_2.png) [@ihnorton](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/ihnorton)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/censorship-issues-and-community-behavior/7442/44 "2017-12-05T16:08:55Z")

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I moved the discussion of pinging to a new topic:

> [@Community norms for unsolicited communication](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/community-norms-for-unsolicited-communication/7539):
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> I believe any user in discourse, or any similar platform, can change their notification settings to avoid getting “spammed,” should they want. Or else, they can use their email filters for this purpose. Giving an example from discourse, one can visit https://discourse.julialang.org/u/\<username\>/preferences/{emails,notifications} to disable Send me an email when someone quotes me, replies to my post, mentions my @username, or invites me to a topic or Allow other users to send me private me…

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