# Bug? Plots + pyplot()
**URL:** https://discourse.julialang.org/t/bug-plots-pyplot/70940
**Category:** Visualization
**Tags:** jupyter, pyplot, plots, gr
**Created:** [November 4, 2021, 8:20am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/bug-plots-pyplot/70940 "2021-11-04T08:20:54Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
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### Author:  [@BLI](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/BLI)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2021, 8:20am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/bug-plots-pyplot/70940/1 "2021-11-04T08:20:54Z")
I’m on Windows 11 (64bit), latest update as of now. I use Julia v1.6.3, latest update as of today with all packages.
When I do simple plots using the `pyplot()` backend, my **Jupyter notebook crashes** with the following error message:
If I switch to `gr()` backend, the code runs without problems.
The same happens if I run another notebook.
The problem appears to have started a few days ago when I updated the Julia packages, where amongst others `pyplot()` had to be installed via `Conda.add()`, etc.
The reason why I still prefer to use `pyplot()` over `gr()` is that:
- `gr()` still has weak spots wrt. rendering text with LaTeX symbols.
- `gr()` sometimes gives “ugly” results, e.g., the following when plotting the result of a Turing model fit:
[GR incorrectly doesn’t show the ylabel in the left column, and the label in the right column (“Density)” is written into the area of the left column.]
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### Author:  [@rafael.guerra](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/rafael.guerra)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2021, 9:39am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/bug-plots-pyplot/70940/2 "2021-11-04T09:39:56Z")
> [@BLI](#):
>
> `gr()` sometimes gives “ugly” results
It would be nice to have a MWE example to try to understand when and why this sometimes happens. Thank you.
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### Author:  [@BLI](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/BLI)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2021, 10:11am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/bug-plots-pyplot/70940/3 "2021-11-04T10:11:54Z")
OK – for the Kernel restarting problem:
```julia
using Plots
pyplot()
#
x = range(0,2pi,length=50)
plot(x,sin)
```
leads to
while
```julia
using Plots
#pyplot()
#
x = range(0,2pi,length=50)
plot(x,sin)
```
uses `gr()` and works.
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### Author:  [@BLI](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/BLI)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2021, 10:15am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/bug-plots-pyplot/70940/4 "2021-11-04T10:15:08Z")
> [@rafael.guerra](#):
>
> It would be nice to have a MWE example to try to understand when and why this sometimes happens. Thank you.
This happens with `gr()` every time I run a Turing problem and do:
```julia
par_NUTS = sample(model,NUTS(100,0.75),Npos)
plot(par_NUTS)
```
leads to
I can try to can make a complete, yet simple MWE. Possibly by stealing an example from the Turing documentation.
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### Author:  [@rafael.guerra](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/rafael.guerra)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2021, 10:48am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/bug-plots-pyplot/70940/5 "2021-11-04T10:48:35Z")
Not familiar with `Turing.jl` but it seems that some Plots recipe is missing/broken.
Have you tried `using StatsPlots` to see if an appropriate recipe is triggered?
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### Author:  [@BLI](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/BLI)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2021, 11:36am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/bug-plots-pyplot/70940/6 "2021-11-04T11:36:51Z")
Yes, I have included `using StatsPlots` – with the same result. Note: `pyplot` handed this fine – that is, before it started to kill the kernel…
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### Author:  [@rafael.guerra](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/rafael.guerra)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2021, 11:38am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/bug-plots-pyplot/70940/7 "2021-11-04T11:38:35Z")
Ok, maybe you should open an issue then.
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### Author:  [@BLI](https://discourse.julialang.org/u/BLI)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2021, 11:47am UTC](https://discourse.julialang.org/t/bug-plots-pyplot/70940/8 "2021-11-04T11:47:21Z")
I’ll try to do that. The bigger problem for me, though, is that `pyplot()` makes the notebook session crash.